Usually not very long. One email contact from the admin of the site usually
does it. Ive had to do it a number of times. Some take abit longer but none
of the major ones since that would hurt the business of the major spam
blockers to not be responsive to sites.

Mostly the spam blockers just want an email which verifies that the mail
server IS being managed.

Gandalf Parker

Depends upon which dnsbl this hypothetical big data center ended up on.

/steve
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http://www.cotse.net/resources.html

Hypothetically MAPS http://www.mail-abuse.org/referred.html

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Dennis

When we are contacted with a remove request, an Investigator (if possible,
the original Investigator who listed the IP in the MAPS RBL) will start a
dialogue with you to discuss what actions caused the listing, what has been
done to resolve these issues and what will be done to prevent them from
occurring in the future. If necessary, the Investigator will ask about abuse
handling policies, acceptable use policies and any problems encountered in
the notification.

These discussions will be documented and forwarded to MAPS Management with a
recommendation for the listing (removal, probation, maintain listing). There
is a probationary period where the IP is removed from the list but can be
reactivated without a new nomination if there are new occurrences. The
probated listing is monitored for an appropriate period of time to ensure
that there are no new instances of spamming activity. If there is no new
spamming activity at the end of the probationary period, the listing is
removed.

http://www.mail-abuse.com/removereq_rbl.html

hypothetical big data center went here and contacted them:

http://www.mail-abuse.com/removereq_rbl.html

/steve
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http://www.cotse.net/resources.html

Hypothetically big data centers like to sit on their fat asses rather than
work.

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Dennis

Although hypothetical, it happens all the time. It happened to me when I
was a host, got my IP blocked on spamcop. Took about a week or so to
remove it, from memory.

I preferred the bag btw.

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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

Your memory or theirs. :)

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Dennis

A spamcop listing will expire 48 hours from the time the last spam is
seen.

/steve
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Free Privacy Resources
http://www.cotse.net/resources.html

Funny. When I re-read it, I read it just as you did!

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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

Seems to take about a day here
Sorbs charges $50 to remove you even after you present proof that you've
done away with the spammer.
Bloody extortionists!

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dp

In order for IP blocks to get listed rather than the individual IP, most
blacklists require a pattern of abuse, or willful indifference to abuse,
from the ISP. With that (hypothetical) assumption:

Hopefully forever. Assume at least until foo-bar goes out of business.
Customers should find a better ISP as soon as possible.

Yeah, I've noticed that--hypothetically speaking of course.
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Red

Hypothetically I would hope this is a one shot time for foo-bar and at this
hypothetical time would hate for foo-bar to go out of business.

Thanks for your response.

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Dennis

That's precisely what it is. In the same way that AV software makers need
viruses to stay in business, these people need spam to stay in business.

Yet another examplr of how the innocent user suffers at the hands of the
zealot, or in this case the extortionist.

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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

Being serious for a few minutes (that's about all I can manage at my
age), looking at the "spam" I receive, it strikes me that:

a) It's sent from faked email addresses (and those belonging to other
people)

b) No one is going to actually buy the advertised products in such
obviously faked adverts.

Which makes me wonder who really is sending it. I find it unlikely
that it's the companies as such, as they would not fake the sending
address - the exception being perhaps the adverts for hard core
sites which do seem to have genuine "from" details.

Matt

Yep. It also stikes me that the zealots seem to be experts on all
things spam.

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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

http://www.us.sorbs.net/overview.shtml

[snip]
: Note: Use of this service is currently free of charge. References to
: the SORBS fine refers ONLY to the database of received spam. There is
: no charge for removal from the proxy, vulnerablility, relay, zombie or
: DUHL databases.
[snip]
[delisting is free:]
: Proxy Databases (HTTP/SOCKS & Misc)
[snip]
[delisting is free:]
: Open Relay (SMTP) Database
[snip]
[delisting is free:]
: Vulnerabilities Database
[snip]

[delisting is free:]
: Zombie Database
[snip]
[delisting is free:]
: Dynamic User/Host List Database (DUHL)
[snip]
: Spam Database
: Listing is manual and is performed when any spam is received at a
: SORBS spamtrap. SORBS spamtraps include, but are not limited to the
: private email addresses of the SORBS admins. On occasion when a
: particular network is seen to be spamming and listing has no effect
: the entire netblock will be listed. If spamming continues unabated the
: netblock be slowly expanded (depending on the number of spams
: received) until something is done about the spammer.
:
: Delisting if the netblock is expanded, delisting is only performed
: when the spammer is nolonger using the address space, in which case
: the netblock will be reduced down to the affected IPs free of charge.
: The effected IPs (the ones used to send the spam) will only be
: delisted when US$50 is donated to a SORBS nominated charity or good
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: cause. The charities and good causes SORBS approves will not have any
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: connection with any member of the SORBS administrators either past or
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: present.
^^^^^^^^
:
[delisting is free:]
: Admin block requests
: Listing is by request of the netblock owner.
:
: Delisting is free of charge and at the request of the netblock owner.
[snip]

Their alternative would probably be to charge nothing and then spend
26 hours[1] per day checking the validity of delisting requests that
claim that the spamming has been stopped when, most of the time, it
hasn't.

[1] But they only have 24 hours in a day and at least some of that time
has to be spent doing other things.
--
Windows is *not* a "Toy OS".
/me desperately trying to hide the URL for the screenshot of my desktop
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/temp/MyDe...Jun-22-2005.gif

/Grumpy old man

That's the trouble with folk today - no commitment

--
William Tasso

The problem is that the DB is distributed to ISP's.
If they can't take the time to correct it. They should not be distributing
it as gospel.

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dp

Hypothetically, thanks for all the feedback.

--
Dennis

You're hypothetically welcome.

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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

Have you ever wondered how the AV software makers are able to come out with
updates & fixes within a day or two after a new virus is found?

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Tony Garcia
Web Right! Development