GreyWyvern
Jun 27 2005, 10:52 PM
Hello AWW,
I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way... Some of you may have
discovered this news already, but the members I contacted did not so:
After he was mentioned a few times in AWW recently, I took it upon myself
to locate Bill Logan. His last post to AWW can be found here:
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.www.webmaster/msg/a53a203ae429766c?hl=en>
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the
16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in
his sleep of a heart attack. Because his business was a sole
proprietorship, and he was the only one who knew the passwords to his
machines, his hosting company was dissolved, at much expense, by his widow
and 6 year-old son.
I have contact names and a PO-box mailing address, which I can send out
via email, should anyone wish to offer their condolences. If you do
decide to say a word, please keep in mind that this happened eight months
ago already, and we are only just hearing about it now. You may email me
at grey at greywyvern dot com.
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind;
many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself
included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us,
and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
--
Grey
Dennis
Jun 27 2005, 11:13 PM
On 27 Jun 2005 GreyWyvern wrote in alt.www.webmaster
QUOTE |
Hello AWW,
I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way... Some of you may have discovered this news already, but the members I contacted did not so:
After he was mentioned a few times in AWW recently, I took it upon myself to locate Bill Logan. His last post to AWW can be found here:
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.www.webmaster/msg/a53a203ae42976 6c?hl=en
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the 16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in his sleep of a heart attack. Because his business was a sole proprietorship, and he was the only one who knew the passwords to his machines, his hosting company was dissolved, at much expense, by his widow and 6 year-old son.
I have contact names and a PO-box mailing address, which I can send out via email, should anyone wish to offer their condolences. If you do decide to say a word, please keep in mind that this happened eight months ago already, and we are only just hearing about it now. You may email me at grey at greywyvern dot com.
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
That just spoilt my day. Bill was always fun to go a round or two with. |
Thanks for tracking this down for us.
--
Dennis
Mark Parnell
Jun 27 2005, 11:18 PM
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, GreyWyvern <[Email Removed]> said:
QUOTE |
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the 16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in his sleep of a heart attack.
|
Sad news indeed. He will be (already is) sorely missed.
Good detective work though Grey. Thanks for letting us know.
--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
William Tasso
Jun 27 2005, 11:37 PM
Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the Bell Sympatico cafeteria
GreyWyvern <[Email Removed]> said:
QUOTE |
... I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
|
Amen to that.
PS: Well done Grey.
--
William Tasso
Steve Sobol
Jun 27 2005, 11:41 PM
Dennis wrote:
QUOTE |
That just spoilt my day. Bill was always fun to go a round or two with.
|
No, he really wasn't, at least not for me. The best I can say for him is
that he's the one that led me to start posting here.
However, his passing is still a crying shame. Hopefully it was relatively
painless (as painless as a heart attack can be - the original post *does*
say he died in his sleep, so one would hope it wasn't too traumatic).
--
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Coming to you from Southern California's High Desert, where the
temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)
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Tina - AxisHOST, Inc.
Jun 27 2005, 11:56 PM
R.I.P., Bill.
To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own mortality.
I've been coming to terms with my own in recent months, and the one thing
that strikes me is how we don't plan ahead for the inevitable. Make sure
that no one is soley dependant on you for their financial
well-being...please.
--Tina
"GreyWyvern" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE |
Hello AWW,
I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way... Some of you may have discovered this news already, but the members I contacted did not so:
After he was mentioned a few times in AWW recently, I took it upon myself to locate Bill Logan. His last post to AWW can be found here:
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.www.webmaster/msg/a53a203ae429766c?hl=en
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the 16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in his sleep of a heart attack. Because his business was a sole proprietorship, and he was the only one who knew the passwords to his machines, his hosting company was dissolved, at much expense, by his widow and 6 year-old son.
I have contact names and a PO-box mailing address, which I can send out via email, should anyone wish to offer their condolences. If you do decide to say a word, please keep in mind that this happened eight months ago already, and we are only just hearing about it now. You may email me at grey at greywyvern dot com.
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
-- Grey |
MGW
Jun 28 2005, 01:04 AM
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:56:29 -0400, "Tina - AxisHOST, Inc."
<[Email Removed]> wrote:
QUOTE |
R.I.P., Bill.
To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own mortality. I've been coming to terms with my own in recent months, and the one thing that strikes me is how we don't plan ahead for the inevitable. Make sure that no one is soley dependant on you for their financial well-being...please.
|
Make sure you have a will and good life insurance.
--
MGW
Tina - AxisHOST, Inc.
Jun 28 2005, 01:14 AM
"MGW" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE |
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:56:29 -0400, "Tina - AxisHOST, Inc." <[Email Removed]> wrote:
R.I.P., Bill.
To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own mortality. I've been coming to terms with my own in recent months, and the one thing that strikes me is how we don't plan ahead for the inevitable. Make sure that no one is soley dependant on you for their financial well-being...please.
Make sure you have a will and good life insurance.
|
....and that you're not the only one capable of running your business.
--Tina
Lois
Jun 28 2005, 01:44 AM
"Tina - AxisHOST, Inc." wrote:
: R.I.P., Bill.
Yeah.
At WHT, there's a poster with the username "loganNZ." I kept
wondering if he was Bill Logan, so I PMed him a few months ago to ask
him. He wasn't, of course, but his username still reminds me of Bill.
: To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own
mortality.
: I've been coming to terms with my own in recent months, and the one
thing
: that strikes me is how we don't plan ahead for the inevitable.
It isn't easy to do, that's for sure. I haven't done nearly enough,
but one thing I've always done is make sure that at least one other
person has the usernames and passwords for every website that I'm
responsible for. (Except for my personal site, but maybe I should do
something about that.)
It's sad that it took us 9 months to learn that something had
happened to Bill. Thanks, Grey, for finding out for us. BTW, how did
you uncover this information?
In the groups where you're a regular, does at least one other person
know how to find out about you if you suddenly drop out of the
picture? For me, a couple of people here do, and more people do in
another group. I really enjoy cybergroups, but it's always felt
strange to me that something like this could happen and people might
not find out for a long time, if ever.
Lois
--
www.wordsweave.com
John Bokma
Jun 28 2005, 01:48 AM
GreyWyvern <[Email Removed]> wrote:
QUOTE |
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
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Sad news. I remember a very heated discussion between Bill and me, and I
think we both enjoyed it. I think that mentioning subdomains is still
something that brings memories back to people here.
Anyway, I won't forget Bill.
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GreyWyvern
Jun 28 2005, 01:52 AM
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:44:24 -0400, Lois <[Email Removed]>
wrote:
QUOTE |
It's sad that it took us 9 months to learn that something had happened to Bill. Thanks, Grey, for finding out for us. BTW, how did you uncover this information?
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The main bit was looking through some old Google-cached pages until I
found a former customer of bildanet.com. That customer was then able to
point me to someone who had the information.
Grey
Eric Jarvis
Jun 28 2005, 01:58 AM
GreyWyvern [Email Removed] wrote in
<[Email Removed]>:
QUOTE |
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
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I'll spill some beer for him next tine I have one. Yes, he'll be missed.
He might have been (on my opinion) wrong about some things, but he was
somebody clearly trying to do the right things in the right way, and
that's all anyone can really ask of any of us.
--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Eric Jarvis
Jun 28 2005, 02:03 AM
Tina - AxisHOST, Inc. [Email Removed] wrote in
<[Email Removed]>:
QUOTE |
R.I.P., Bill.
To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own mortality. I've been coming to terms with my own in recent months, and the one thing that strikes me is how we don't plan ahead for the inevitable. Make sure that no one is soley dependant on you for their financial well-being...please.
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Hell, even I'm not solely dependent on me for my financial well being.
Seriously. My father didn't make a will, and that put my mother through a
LOT of unnecessary stress, and that's with all relatives agreed that we
stay out of it and she gets everything.
--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Viper
Jun 28 2005, 02:04 AM
Lois wrote:
QUOTE |
In the groups where you're a regular, does at least one other person know how to find out about you if you suddenly drop out of the picture? For me, a couple of people here do, and more people do in another group. I really enjoy cybergroups, but it's always felt strange to me that something like this could happen and people might not find out for a long time, if ever.
|
In another group I read and post now and then we also had a regular
disappear. I think it was like a month or two later that his wife emailed
some of the people from the group and they let the rest of us know.
Not sure about how I got along with Bill, I have a hard time remembering
stuff from a week ago anymore.
RIP Bill.
John Bokma
Jun 28 2005, 02:05 AM
"Lois" <[Email Removed]> wrote:
QUOTE |
It's sad that it took us 9 months to learn that something had happened to Bill.
|
Maybe some got less worried because Duende was also gone for some time, and
turned out to be alive?
QUOTE |
Thanks, Grey, for finding out for us. BTW, how did you uncover this information?
In the groups where you're a regular, does at least one other person know how to find out about you if you suddenly drop out of the picture?
|
In the past I have been contacted a few times when I was suddenly out of
the picture for a week or so, also because people knew at that time that I
was not doing ok. But I have also been away for months, and nobody informed
back then. So it depends on age, and what people know I guess.
QUOTE |
For me, a couple of people here do, and more people do in another group. I really enjoy cybergroups, but it's always felt strange to me that something like this could happen and people might not find out for a long time, if ever.
|
It happens in real life too. But because there are more ways that news
travels, especialy if it's in your own town, you hear sooner.
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Disco Octopus
Jun 28 2005, 02:06 AM
Tina - AxisHOST, Inc. wrote :
QUOTE |
"GreyWyvern" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:[Email Removed]... Hello AWW,
|
QUOTE |
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the 16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in his sleep of a heart attack. Because his business was a sole proprietorship, and he was the only one who knew the passwords to his machines, his hosting company was dissolved, at much expense, by his widow and 6 year-old son.
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QUOTE |
R.I.P., Bill.
To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own mortality. I've been coming to terms with my own in recent months, and the one thing that strikes me is how we don't plan ahead for the inevitable. Make sure that no one is soley dependant on you for their financial well-being...please.
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Indeed Tina. Something that I must sort out in the instant.
RIP Bill Logan, and a long life to the Logan family.
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Jun 28 2005, 02:26 AM
"Tina - AxisHOST, Inc." <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE |
R.I.P., Bill.
To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own mortality. I've been coming to terms with my own in recent months, and the one thing that strikes me is how we don't plan ahead for the inevitable. Make sure that no one is soley dependant on you for their financial well-being...please.
--Tina
"GreyWyvern" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:[Email Removed]... Hello AWW,
I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way... Some of you may have discovered this news already, but the members I contacted did not so:
After he was mentioned a few times in AWW recently, I took it upon myself to locate Bill Logan. His last post to AWW can be found here:
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.www.webmaster/msg/a53a203ae429766c? |
hl=en>
QUOTE |
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the 16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in his sleep of a heart attack. Because his business was a sole proprietorship, and he was the only one who knew the passwords to his machines, his hosting company was dissolved, at much expense, by his widow and 6 year-old son.
I have contact names and a PO-box mailing address, which I can send out via email, should anyone wish to offer their condolences. If you do decide to say a word, please keep in mind that this happened eight months ago already, and we are only just hearing about it now. You may email me at grey at greywyvern dot com.
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
-- Grey
|
In keeping with the spirt of the group, and in all honesty, if Bill were
here to say so...
Please... Don't top post.
;)
--
Allis
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Mark Parnell
Jun 28 2005, 02:29 AM
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, John Bokma <[Email Removed]> said:
QUOTE |
Maybe some got less worried because Duende was also gone for some time, and turned out to be alive?
|
Perhaps. This makes me wonder whether it's worth trying to find brucie?
It's been a long time since he was last around, even for him. I did have
his address and phone number around somewhere at one point - I'm sure I
could find it again.
--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Lois
Jun 28 2005, 02:36 AM
"Mark Parnell" wrote:
: Perhaps. This makes me wonder whether it's worth trying to find
brucie?
: It's been a long time since he was last around, even for him. I did
have
: his address and phone number around somewhere at one point - I'm
sure I
: could find it again.
I tried to email him a couple of hours ago. The usenetshit.info email
addresses bounced. The email to the bigpond.com address didn't
bounce, but I don't know if it reached him either.
His phone number and snail mail address are at
http://www.whois.sc/usenetshit.info . He last updated his record on
June 23, so he's still kicking.
I hope you try to reach him. How dare he stay away for so long.
Lois
--
www.wordsweave.com
Steve Sobol
Jun 28 2005, 02:51 AM
Tina - AxisHOST, Inc. wrote:
QUOTE |
R.I.P., Bill.
To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own mortality.
|
I've always wondered what it would be like to die. The problem with finding
out is that you can't come back, and I'm not ready to... not come back.
--
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Coming to you from Southern California's High Desert, where the
temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)
"Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"
John Bokma
Jun 28 2005, 02:55 AM
Mark Parnell <[Email Removed]> wrote:
QUOTE |
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, John Bokma <[Email Removed] said:
Maybe some got less worried because Duende was also gone for some time, and turned out to be alive?
Perhaps. This makes me wonder whether it's worth trying to find brucie?
|
I have no idea. From a visit to his site ages ago I remember he has (had)
problems similar to ones I had (if you can compare such things), and
sometimes I have the idea that it would be good to take a break for some
time in my case.
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Jun 28 2005, 02:56 AM
Steve Sobol <[Email Removed]> wrote:
QUOTE |
Tina - AxisHOST, Inc. wrote: R.I.P., Bill.
To others who read this, let this be a wake up call to your own mortality.
I've always wondered what it would be like to die. The problem with finding out is that you can't come back, and I'm not ready to... not come back.
|
You can get very close to it. Or read up how others experienced it. I think
most will say: it changed my life.
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Mark Parnell
Jun 28 2005, 02:58 AM
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, Lois <[Email Removed]>
said:
[brucie]
QUOTE |
I tried to email him a couple of hours ago. The usenetshit.info email addresses bounced. The email to the bigpond.com address didn't bounce, but I don't know if it reached him either.
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Let us know if you do get any response.
Ah, hadn't looked there. I assumed that since the site had been taken
down, the domain would have been cancelled.
QUOTE |
He last updated his record on June 23, so he's still kicking.
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IIRC that's usually just the last time that whois database was updated,
rather than the particular domain.
QUOTE |
I hope you try to reach him. How dare he stay away for so long.
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May have to try. Will keep you posted.
--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Dennis
Jun 28 2005, 03:05 AM
On 27 Jun 2005 Viper wrote in alt.www.webmaster
QUOTE |
Not sure about how I got along with Bill,
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You didn't. :)
--
Dennis
Jerry Stuckle
Jun 28 2005, 03:09 AM
Grey,
Thanks for passing on the very sad news.
I always respected Bill. While he and I generally didn't agree, he
always respected my views.
A very sad day in the neighborhood.
--
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JDS Computer Training Corp.
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Mark Parnell
Jun 28 2005, 03:19 AM
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, John Bokma <[Email Removed]> said:
QUOTE |
sometimes I have the idea that it would be good to take a break for some time in my case.
|
Can be a good idea for anyone, really. It just that while it's not
unusual for brucie to disappear, sometimes for months at a time, he's
never been gone for anywhere near this long before.
I'm thinking that I will probably just send him something via snail
mail. That way he can choose to respond or not, in his own time. Ringing
is probably too invasive (and more expensive for me).
--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Lois
Jun 28 2005, 03:36 AM
"Mark Parnell" wrote:
: I'm thinking that I will probably just send him something via snail
: mail.
Say hi from me if you do. Or just tell him that a Canadian woman is
thinking about him. ;-)
Thanks,
Lois
--
www.wordsweave.com
Mark Parnell
Jun 28 2005, 03:43 AM
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, Lois <[Email Removed]>
said:
QUOTE |
Say hi from me if you do. Or just tell him that a Canadian woman is thinking about him. ;-)
|
Allis
Jun 28 2005, 03:59 AM
"GreyWyvern" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE |
Hello AWW,
I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way... Some of you may have discovered this news already, but the members I contacted did not so:
After he was mentioned a few times in AWW recently, I took it upon myself to locate Bill Logan. His last post to AWW can be found here:
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.www.webmaster/msg/a53a203ae429766c? |
hl=en>
QUOTE |
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the 16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in his sleep of a heart attack. Because his business was a sole proprietorship, and he was the only one who knew the passwords to his machines, his hosting company was dissolved, at much expense, by his widow and 6 year-old son.
I have contact names and a PO-box mailing address, which I can send out via email, should anyone wish to offer their condolences. If you do decide to say a word, please keep in mind that this happened eight months ago already, and we are only just hearing about it now. You may email me at grey at greywyvern dot com.
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
-- Grey
|
Stephen K. Gielda
Jun 28 2005, 04:58 AM
In article <[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed]
says...
QUOTE |
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
|
I like people who speak their minds regardless of whether it wins them
brownie points or not. Bill will be missed.
/steve
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Matt Probert
Jun 28 2005, 05:16 AM
Once upon a time, far far away GreyWyvern <[Email Removed]>
muttered
QUOTE |
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the 16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in his sleep of a heart attack.
|
A sad loss. He is missed, but not forgotten.
Matt
Lois
Jun 28 2005, 05:26 AM
In the thread about Bill Logan, Lois wrote about Brucie:
: > I tried to email him a couple of hours ago. The usenetshit.info
email
: > addresses bounced. The email to the bigpond.com address didn't
: > bounce, but I don't know if it reached him either.
"Mark Parnell" responded:
: Let us know if you do get any response.
I'm starting a new thread because Bill should have his own thread,
and so should Brucie.
Brucie is alive and...Brucie-like. He responded to my email via the
bigpond address in his whois record. (Warning: if anyone else wants
to email him, use plain text only and no MS programs or his filters
might block you.)
He said he's out of the loop and hasn't been hanging around this
group. I hinted to him that he might find the offers of free he
was looking for if he came back here. (Well, what would you say to
bring him back?) If I get him here, the next step is up to the rest
of you.
Lois
--
www.wordsweave.com
Lois
Jun 28 2005, 05:27 AM
"Mark Parnell" wrote:
: Let us know if you do get any response.
I got a response. I started another thread about it because I didn't
want to detract from this thread about Bill.
Lois
--
www.wordsweave.com
Steve Sobol
Jun 28 2005, 06:08 AM
Lois wrote:
QUOTE |
He said he's out of the loop and hasn't been hanging around this group. I hinted to him that he might find the offers of free he was looking for if he came back here. (Well, what would you say to bring him back?) If I get him here, the next step is up to the rest of you.
|
I'm not sleeping with Brucie. Sorry; I'm spoken for.
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temperatures are as high as the gas prices! / 888.480.4NET (4638)
"Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"
Mark Parnell
Jun 28 2005, 06:14 AM
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, Lois <[Email Removed]>
said:
QUOTE |
I'm starting a new thread because Bill should have his own thread, and so should Brucie.
|
Except that you posted it as part of the existing thread, just with a
different subject. :-)
QUOTE |
Brucie is alive and...Brucie-like.
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Great news. Glad you managed to get hold of him. It'd be nice if he came
back, but at least we know he's OK.
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Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Mark Parnell
Jun 28 2005, 06:14 AM
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, Steve Sobol <[Email Removed]> said:
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I'm not sleeping with Brucie. Sorry; I'm spoken for.
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Ditto. But we do miss him. :-(
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Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
Viper
Jun 28 2005, 06:51 AM
Dennis wrote:
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On 27 Jun 2005 Viper wrote in alt.www.webmaster
Not sure about how I got along with Bill,
You didn't. :)
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Figures...
Bet if I ever disappear and you all find out I died there will be a party...
Charles Sweeney
Jun 28 2005, 07:36 AM
GreyWyvern wrote
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Hello AWW,
I hope this post isn't taken the wrong way...
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Certainly not.
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Some of you may have discovered this news already, but the members I contacted did not so:
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No-one said anything.
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After he was mentioned a few times in AWW recently, I took it upon myself to locate Bill Logan. His last post to AWW can be found here:
<http://groups- beta.google.com/group/alt.www.webmaster/msg/a53a203ae429 766c?hl=en
Unforunately, I uncovered sad news. Sometime in October 2004, after the 16th (post date of the above message), Bill Logan passed away suddenly in his sleep of a heart attack. Because his business was a sole proprietorship, and he was the only one who knew the passwords to his machines, his hosting company was dissolved, at much expense, by his widow and 6 year-old son.
I have contact names and a PO-box mailing address, which I can send out via email, should anyone wish to offer their condolences. If you do decide to say a word, please keep in mind that this happened eight months ago already, and we are only just hearing about it now. You may email me at grey at greywyvern dot com.
I must say, he had lots of opinions, and wasn't afraid to speak his mind; many of his positions on various topics raised ire in here, with myself included. Yet despite everything, no one can deny that he was one of us, and he will be missed.
RIP - Bill Logan
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Sad news. Bit of a shock too.
You never know why some people stop posting, but something like this is
always in the back of your mind.
It would be sweet to make an expression of condolance to his family.
They might not know we even exist.
Thanks for doing this Grey.
RIP Bill Logan. I hope he took his rugby ball to heaven with him!
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
Charles Sweeney
Jun 28 2005, 07:43 AM
Lois wrote
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In the groups where you're a regular, does at least one other person know how to find out about you if you suddenly drop out of the picture?
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That got me thinking. If I passed away suddenly, no-one I know would make
a post in here. My friends and family know that I have webmaster chums
online, but they don't do (and have never done) usenet.
I am a sole trader too. I have thought about this before. I have a file
with important stuff in it, passwords etc, so I think someone would be able
to continue with it.
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
Charles Sweeney
Jun 28 2005, 07:44 AM
Viper wrote
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Dennis wrote: On 27 Jun 2005 Viper wrote in alt.www.webmaster
Not sure about how I got along with Bill,
You didn't. :)
Figures...
Bet if I ever disappear and you all find out I died there will be a party...
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Charles Sweeney
Jun 28 2005, 07:46 AM
Lois wrote
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In the thread about Bill Logan, Lois wrote about Brucie: : > I tried to email him a couple of hours ago. The usenetshit.info email : > addresses bounced. The email to the bigpond.com address didn't : > bounce, but I don't know if it reached him either.
"Mark Parnell" responded: : Let us know if you do get any response.
I'm starting a new thread because Bill should have his own thread, and so should Brucie.
Brucie is alive and...Brucie-like. He responded to my email via the bigpond address in his whois record. (Warning: if anyone else wants to email him, use plain text only and no MS programs or his filters might block you.)
He said he's out of the loop and hasn't been hanging around this group. I hinted to him that he might find the offers of free he was looking for if he came back here. (Well, what would you say to bring him back?) If I get him here, the next step is up to the rest of you.
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Thanks for doing that Lois. Good to know the old bugger is still with
us. Did you tell him about Bill?
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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
Dylan Parry
Jun 28 2005, 07:50 AM
Using a pointed stick and pebbles, Viper scraped:
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Bet if I ever disappear and you all find out I died there will be a party...
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It's not that people don't like you, Viper, it's just that you say some
pretty dumb and/or controversial things sometimes, and they really get
up peoples' backs. I'm sure you're not a bad person really.
--
Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references
GreyWyvern
Jun 28 2005, 10:24 AM
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:26:25 -0400, Lois <[Email Removed]>
wrote:
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Brucie is alive and...Brucie-like.
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I miss brucie :|
Please remember to spell his name without a capital "b", as he always
wanted. :P I hope the little voices are keeping him on the straight and
narrow.
Grey
William Tasso
Jun 28 2005, 10:25 AM
Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the wordsweave.com cafeteria
Lois <[Email Removed]> said:
[brucie]
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... He said he's out of the loop and hasn't been hanging around this group.
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He should be congratulated.
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I hinted to him that he might find the offers of free he was looking for if he came back here.
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Free ? TANSTAAFL
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(Well, what would you say to bring him back?)
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Nothing - of course I'd be pleased to see him, but I wouldn't encourage
his return. Nor anyone's.
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William Tasso
Dylan Parry
Jun 28 2005, 10:47 AM
Using a pointed stick and pebbles, GreyWyvern scraped:
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I hope the little voices are keeping him on the straight and narrow.
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I think that brucie, and the voices, would prefer that he's kept on the
wide and twisted ;)
Of course, there are some of those amongst us who believe he is already
with us...
--
Dylan Parry
http://webpageworkshop.co.uk -- FREE Web tutorials and references
William Tasso
Jun 28 2005, 11:29 AM
Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the cafeteria
Dylan Parry <[Email Removed]> said:
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Using a pointed stick and pebbles, GreyWyvern scraped: I hope the little voices are keeping him on the straight and narrow.
I think that brucie, and the voices, would prefer that he's kept on the wide and twisted ;)
Of course, there are some of those amongst us who believe he is already with us...
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/gasp
shurely shome mishtake <g>
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William Tasso
Jerry Stuckle
Jun 28 2005, 12:16 PM
William Tasso wrote:
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Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster From the safety of the wordsweave.com cafeteria Lois <[Email Removed]> said:
[brucie]
... He said he's out of the loop and hasn't been hanging around this group.
He should be congratulated.
I hinted to him that he might find the offers of free he was looking for if he came back here.
Free ? TANSTAAFL
(Well, what would you say to bring him back?)
Nothing - of course I'd be pleased to see him, but I wouldn't encourage his return. Nor anyone's.
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Only the first night is free. It's the next 18 years (and 9 months)
that cost!
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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
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Lois
Jun 28 2005, 01:00 PM
"Mark Parnell" wrote:
: Except that you posted it as part of the existing thread, just with
a
: different subject. :-)
Yeah, sorry about that. I thought that if I changed the subject line
completely, the post would appear as a new thread. Live and learn, as
they say.
Lois
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www.wordsweave.com
Lois
Jun 28 2005, 01:02 PM
"Charles Sweeney" wrote:
: Did you tell him about Bill?
The subject line of my email was "Greetings and an obit in AWW." I
told him to come to AWW to find out who it was about. He said he
didn't want to find out because in his reality, everyone lives
forever and no one wears pants.
He said he hasn't been lurking here, but who wouldn't take a peek
when they know that everyone is talking about them. I told him that I
was going to tell the group that he's alive, so he's probably read
about Bill by now.
Lois
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www.wordsweave.com
Lois
Jun 28 2005, 01:02 PM
"GreyWyvern" wrote:
: Please remember to spell his name without a capital "b", as he
always
: wanted. :P
In his email, he spelled it with a capital B. It must have been a
different voice than the ones that post here.
I hope the little voices are keeping him on the straight and
: narrow.
Depends how you define the straight and narrow. But actually, I don't
know. He was just being Brucie. :-)
Lois
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www.wordsweave.com