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What is the telemarketing industry average conversion rates for sales
to calls? I think it is 8%?

If someone is sending out unsolicited emails with higher conversion
rates would that break any anti-spam law?

Viper
[Email Removed] wrote:
QUOTE
What is the telemarketing industry average conversion rates for sales
to calls? I think it is 8%?

If someone is sending out unsolicited emails with higher conversion
rates would that break any anti-spam law?

Why wouldnt it?

Mark Parnell
Previously in alt.www.webmaster, <[Email Removed]> said:

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What is the telemarketing industry average conversion rates for sales
to calls? I think it is 8%?

No idea. Depends greatly on the product/market/industry in question I
would imagine.

QUOTE
If someone is sending out unsolicited emails with higher conversion
rates would that break any anti-spam law?

How successful it is has no bearing on whether it is spam or not. Though
it may affect how much they can spend on defending themselves in court.
;-)

--
Mark Parnell
http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au

Roy Schestowitz
Viper wrote:

QUOTE
[Email Removed] wrote:
What is the telemarketing industry average conversion rates for sales
to calls? I think it is 8%?

If someone is sending out unsolicited emails with higher conversion
rates would that break any anti-spam law?

Why wouldnt it?

Who is to say that telemarketing is /morally/ legal? The authorities have
become more lenient about it because there is a person talking who is
involved -- someone who must make a living. I bet it started with
individuals who politely phoned before it became a heavy production line
and systematic industry where people are employed on a fixed rate (plus
bonuses).

With spam, on the other hand, whatever the conversion rates, only robots
(read: servers) are involved. Humans can never cope with the productivity
of robots. Imagine yourself the impact of spam becoming legal.

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz
http://Schestowitz.com

Steve
In news:d9tabg$1ssn$[Email Removed],
Roy Schestowitz <[Email Removed]> said:
QUOTE
Viper wrote:

[Email Removed] wrote:
What is the telemarketing industry average conversion rates for
sales to calls? I think it is 8%?

If someone is sending out unsolicited emails with higher conversion
rates would that break any anti-spam law?

Why wouldnt it?

Who is to say that telemarketing is /morally/ legal? The authorities
have become more lenient about it because there is a person talking
who is involved -- someone who must make a living.

Over the last year I've had many telemarketting calls which spew out some
recorded message. Tele-spam, it's the way of the future :-(

--
Steve

Tony
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
QUOTE

Who is to say that telemarketing is /morally/ legal?

Actually, it's become somewhat limited in the US anymore, with the national
"do not call" list and a number of comparable state lists as well.

QUOTE
The authorities
have become more lenient about it because there is a person talking
who is involved

What authorities? How have they "become" more lenient?

QUOTE
-- someone who must make a living. I bet it started
with individuals who politely phoned before it became a heavy
production line and systematic industry where people are employed on
a fixed rate (plus bonuses).

With spam, on the other hand, whatever the conversion rates, only
robots (read: servers) are involved. Humans can never cope with the
productivity of robots. Imagine yourself the impact of spam becoming
legal.

Best I can tell, in most places spam IS legal - at least, there are not a
lot of specific laws AGAINST it.

BTW, have you never been called by a recording?

--
Tony Garcia
Web Right! Development

Viper
Tony wrote:
QUOTE
Roy Schestowitz wrote:

Who is to say that telemarketing is /morally/ legal?

Actually, it's become somewhat limited in the US anymore, with the
national "do not call" list and a number of comparable state lists as
well.
The authorities
have become more lenient about it because there is a person talking
who is involved

What authorities? How have they "become" more lenient?

-- someone who must make a living. I bet it started
with individuals who politely phoned before it became a heavy
production line and systematic industry where people are employed on
a fixed rate (plus bonuses).

With spam, on the other hand, whatever the conversion rates, only
robots (read: servers) are involved. Humans can never cope with the
productivity of robots. Imagine yourself the impact of spam becoming
legal.

Best I can tell, in most places spam IS legal - at least, there are
not a lot of specific laws AGAINST it.

BTW, have you never been called by a recording?

Yep atleast 2 times a week.

Charles Sweeney
Viper wrote

QUOTE
Tony wrote:
BTW, have you never been called by a recording?

Yep atleast 2 times a week.

Did you report them?

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

Viper
Charles Sweeney wrote:
QUOTE
Viper wrote

Tony wrote:
BTW, have you never been called by a recording?

Yep atleast 2 times a week.

Did you report them?

Yep.

Charles Sweeney
Viper wrote

QUOTE
Charles Sweeney wrote:
Viper wrote

Tony wrote:
BTW, have you never been called by a recording?

Yep atleast 2 times a week.

Did you report them?

Yep.

At least you're consistent.

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com

Tom J
"Charles Sweeney" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
QUOTE
Viper wrote

Charles Sweeney wrote:
Viper wrote

Tony wrote:
BTW, have you never been called by a recording?

Yep atleast 2 times a week.

Did you report them?

Yep.

At least you're consistent.

You don't have to be too consistent IF you can record the recording
and where it coming from. Got evidence of the same server dialing my
home 4 times in one week. I handed it over to a lawyer friend and just
2 months later he handed me a check covering those calls, plus the
others they made while he was working the case, and I haven't had a
recording call since. When you hit one of the telemarketers in the
pocket book, they all know ASAP.

Tom J

Charles Sweeney
Tom J wrote

QUOTE

"Charles Sweeney" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Viper wrote

Charles Sweeney wrote:
Viper wrote

Tony wrote:
BTW, have you never been called by a recording?

Yep atleast 2 times a week.

Did you report them?

Yep.

At least you're consistent.

You don't have to be too consistent

Eh? I was referring to Viper treating telemarketers the same way as
online spammers.

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com


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