WorkTheWeb Forums > The forum4designers.com Thievery

Blinky the Shark

Jun 29 2005, 04:10 AM

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

<paste>

QUOTE

I just discovered that forum4designers does more with our innocently
posted messages than I thought.

Have a look at this link for instance:

http://www.forum4designers.com/message268892.html

Look at the first message, there's an underlined word in it: IP.
Hover over the link and see what happens. Am I the first one to see
this? When you scroll down you'll see many more such links, and I'm
not sure I like my posts being used like that really.

Thoughts anyone?

They were already making money from the Google ads, which I don't
feel entirely comfortable with, but I can't complain about as they
are simply archiving publicly available information.

The links are very clever, and hats off to them for their enterprise.
But yes, I feel slightly robbed by this, but I certainly don't think
it's illegal, or breaking any rules.

Have you seen the 7th post? Matt is advertising space for banners in
his sig, but through the linked word, it looks like he's advertising
the banners of a banner making company.

I looked at Matt's post, but couldn't see any links.

The word 'add banner' in his sig isn't linked?

QUOTE

However, it's a
good point you have raised, and one that would have certain legal
implications. i.e where it appears that someone is recommending
something, when they are not.

Or when they are just linked to something they haven't done, like in
the first post on this page:
http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

"I have a website". When 'website' is linked, you would expect that
link to lead to the writer's website. I doubt the writer of that post
has a company called Ebay though :-)

</paste>

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

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Mark Parnell

Jun 29 2005, 04:35 AM

Previously in alt.www.webmaster, Blinky the Shark <[Email Removed]>
said:

QUOTE

http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

No. But I never saw them in the first place, so I'm probably not the
best person to ask. :-)

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Chris Hope

Jun 29 2005, 04:46 AM

Blinky the Shark wrote:

QUOTE

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

[snip]

http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

[snip]

QUOTE

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

It's done with Javascript after the page has loaded. I just checked it
on IE and Mozilla on my Windows box and it shows up. When it was first
mentioned here I checked the page and wondered what it was all about as
it doesn't work in Konqueror.

I've made a screenshot of the offending popup, which displayed when I
moused over the text "NO SPAM". See pic at link below:
http://www.electrictoolbox.com/images/forum4designers.gif

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Blinky the Shark

Jun 29 2005, 05:06 AM

Chris Hope wrote:

QUOTE

Blinky the Shark wrote:

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

[snip]

http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

[snip]

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

It's done with Javascript after the page has loaded. I just checked it
on IE and Mozilla on my Windows box and it shows up. When it was first
mentioned here I checked the page and wondered what it was all about
as it doesn't work in Konqueror.

Noted. I also don't see it in Opera or Firefox.

QUOTE

I've made a screenshot of the offending popup, which displayed when I
moused over the text "NO SPAM". See pic at link below:
http://www.electrictoolbox.com/images/forum4designers.gif

Thanks, Chris. If someone in the other group says I'm nuts, I can give
them that image link. :)

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Dennis

Jun 29 2005, 06:02 AM

On 28 Jun 2005 Blinky the Shark wrote in alt.www.webmaster

QUOTE

If someone in the other group says I'm nuts, I can give
them that image link. :)

Sorry, the image is a fake. Please resume taking you meds.

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Ed Wurster

Jun 29 2005, 12:35 PM

Blinky the Shark wrote:

QUOTE

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

Yes, I see them - with firefox and win98.

The slogan at the top of the page is amusing, too:
"Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups"

Ed

www.douglassdavis.com

Jun 29 2005, 01:28 PM

Blinky the Shark wrote:

QUOTE

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

...

Interesting... I wonder how many people actually use this? I mean, it
does add the GUI to newsgroups, but at the same time, the ads would be
annoying to me.

Matt-the-Hoople

Jun 29 2005, 01:53 PM

In news:[Email Removed],
Blinky the Shark <[Email Removed]> walked into the bar with a grape in
each nostril and said to the bartender:
:: I mentioned something about this issue in another group.
::
:: In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
:: this old post from a.w.w:

I notice that *these* threads are conspicuous in their absence on the forum
in question.

- M

Els

Jun 29 2005, 01:54 PM

Matt-the-Hoople wrote:

QUOTE

In news:[Email Removed],
Blinky the Shark <[Email Removed]> walked into the bar with a grape in
each nostril and said to the bartender:
:: I mentioned something about this issue in another group.
::
:: In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
:: this old post from a.w.w:

I notice that *these* threads are conspicuous in their absence on the forum
in question.

Indeed. They show up through the archives though, but they're banned
from the 'front page'.

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Matt-the-Hoople

Jun 29 2005, 02:16 PM

In news:1nztjqq477ul1.zqvykd38jfyn$[Email Removed],
Els <[Email Removed]> walked into the bar with a grape in each
nostril and said to the bartender:
:: Matt-the-Hoople wrote:
::
::: In news:[Email Removed],
::: Blinky the Shark <[Email Removed]> walked into the bar with a
::: grape in each nostril and said to the bartender:
::::: I mentioned something about this issue in another group.
:::::
::::: In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked
::::: in this old post from a.w.w:
:::
::: I notice that *these* threads are conspicuous in their absence on
::: the forum in question.
::
:: Indeed. They show up through the archives though, but they're banned
:: from the 'front page'.

Yeah - found that. Also, posting a follow-up seems not to show up here.

hmmmmph!

- M

Els

Jun 29 2005, 02:20 PM

Matt-the-Hoople wrote:

QUOTE

In news:1nztjqq477ul1.zqvykd38jfyn$[Email Removed],
Els <[Email Removed]> walked into the bar with a grape in each
nostril and said to the bartender:
:: Matt-the-Hoople wrote:
::
::: In news:[Email Removed],
::: Blinky the Shark <[Email Removed]> walked into the bar with a
::: grape in each nostril and said to the bartender:
::::: I mentioned something about this issue in another group.
:::::
::::: In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked
::::: in this old post from a.w.w:
:::
::: I notice that *these* threads are conspicuous in their absence on
::: the forum in question.
::
:: Indeed. They show up through the archives though, but they're banned
:: from the 'front page'.

Yeah - found that. Also, posting a follow-up seems not to show up here.

You mean posting a follow-up from f4d?
I've started a thread there - didn't make it to Usenet either.

I figured that they may have blocked that because of all the
complaints we all used to make in reply to posters from there?

/thinks again.. nah!

QUOTE

hmmmmph!

Indeed :-)

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William Tasso

Jun 29 2005, 06:22 PM

Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the LocusMeus.com cafeteria
Els <[Email Removed]> said:

QUOTE

Matt-the-Hoople wrote:

...
posting a follow-up seems not to show up here.

You mean posting a follow-up from f4d?
I've started a thread there - didn't make it to Usenet either.

I figured that they may have blocked that because of all the
complaints we all used to make in reply to posters from there?

Well - if they didn't plaster the posts with ads I guess we'd had have
been none the wiser (for the most part)

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Blinky the Shark

Jun 29 2005, 07:09 PM

Ed Wurster wrote:

QUOTE

Blinky the Shark wrote:

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

Yes, I see them - with firefox and win98.

The slogan at the top of the page is amusing, too:
"Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups"

And then the bastages list aww only as:

Web Design > Webmaster Forums > Webmaster forum

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Blinky the Shark

Jun 30 2005, 04:48 AM

Chris Hope wrote:

QUOTE

Blinky the Shark wrote:

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

[snip]

http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

[snip]

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

It's done with Javascript after the page has loaded. I just checked it
on IE and Mozilla on my Windows box and it shows up. When it was first
mentioned here I checked the page and wondered what it was all about as
it doesn't work in Konqueror.

I finally found a browser in stock that would show them -- Galeon.
It's Moz-based, but even with js on in the other browsers (listed,
above), including Firefox, they're still not showing. Odd.

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Chris Hope

Jun 30 2005, 04:59 AM

Blinky the Shark wrote:

QUOTE

Chris Hope wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

[snip]

http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

[snip]

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

It's done with Javascript after the page has loaded. I just checked
it on IE and Mozilla on my Windows box and it shows up. When it was
first mentioned here I checked the page and wondered what it was all
about as it doesn't work in Konqueror.

I finally found a browser in stock that would show them -- Galeon.
It's Moz-based, but even with js on in the other browsers (listed,
above), including Firefox, they're still not showing. Odd.

That screenshot I did was using Firefox 1.0.3 on Windows.

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Mark Parnell

Jun 30 2005, 05:04 AM

Previously in alt.www.webmaster, Chris Hope
<[Email Removed]> said:

QUOTE

That screenshot I did was using Firefox 1.0.3 on Windows.

Doesn't show in my Firefox 1.0.4 on Win 2k.

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Blinky the Shark

Jun 30 2005, 05:13 AM

Chris Hope wrote:

QUOTE

Blinky the Shark wrote:

I finally found a browser in stock that would show them -- Galeon.
It's Moz-based, but even with js on in the other browsers (listed,
above), including Firefox, they're still not showing. Odd.

That screenshot I did was using Firefox 1.0.3 on Windows.

Oh, I know everybody else's FF is doing them. That's the odd part. :)

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Mark Parnell

Jun 30 2005, 05:15 AM

Previously in alt.www.webmaster, Blinky the Shark <[Email Removed]>
said:

QUOTE

Oh, I know everybody else's FF is doing them.

Except mine.

QUOTE

That's the odd part. :)

Indeed.

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William Tasso

Jun 30 2005, 06:36 AM

Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the cafeteria
Mark Parnell <[Email Removed]> said:

QUOTE

Previously in alt.www.webmaster, Blinky the Shark <[Email Removed]
said:

Oh, I know everybody else's FF is doing them.

Except mine.

and mine

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GreyWyvern

Jun 30 2005, 12:31 PM

And lo, Blinky the Shark didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:

QUOTE

Chris Hope wrote:

That screenshot I did was using Firefox 1.0.3 on Windows.

Oh, I know everybody else's FF is doing them.

Kinky. Is that an extension?

QUOTE

That's the odd part. :)

Most definitely.

Grey

vMike

Jun 30 2005, 08:29 PM

"Blinky the Shark" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...

QUOTE

Chris Hope wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

[snip]

http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

[snip]

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

It's done with Javascript after the page has loaded. I just checked it
on IE and Mozilla on my Windows box and it shows up. When it was first
mentioned here I checked the page and wondered what it was all about as
it doesn't work in Konqueror.

I finally found a browser in stock that would show them -- Galeon.
It's Moz-based, but even with js on in the other browsers (listed,
above), including Firefox, they're still not showing. Odd.

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It could be that there is a feature to turn it off if you are forum member.
I have seen some forums enable registered members to turn off some
advertising.
Mike

Blinky the Shark

Jun 30 2005, 09:02 PM

vMike wrote:

QUOTE

"Blinky the Shark" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
Chris Hope wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

[snip]

http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

[snip]

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

It's done with Javascript after the page has loaded. I just checked it
on IE and Mozilla on my Windows box and it shows up. When it was first
mentioned here I checked the page and wondered what it was all about as
it doesn't work in Konqueror.

I finally found a browser in stock that would show them -- Galeon.
It's Moz-based, but even with js on in the other browsers (listed,
above), including Firefox, they're still not showing. Odd.

It could be that there is a feature to turn it off if you are forum member.
I have seen some forums enable registered members to turn off some
advertising.

You couldn't pay me to be a forum member.

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vMike

Jun 30 2005, 10:01 PM

"Blinky the Shark" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...

QUOTE

vMike wrote:

"Blinky the Shark" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
Chris Hope wrote:
Blinky the Shark wrote:

I mentioned something about this issue in another group.

In gathering info on it, I went back to the three messages linked in
this old post from a.w.w:

[snip]

http://www.forum4designers.com/message269097.html

[snip]

I don't get any links at those three places, in Opera, FF or
Konqueror.

Do you guys still see them?

It's done with Javascript after the page has loaded. I just checked it
on IE and Mozilla on my Windows box and it shows up. When it was first
mentioned here I checked the page and wondered what it was all about as
it doesn't work in Konqueror.

I finally found a browser in stock that would show them -- Galeon.
It's Moz-based, but even with js on in the other browsers (listed,
above), including Firefox, they're still not showing. Odd.

It could be that there is a feature to turn it off if you are forum
member.
I have seen some forums enable registered members to turn off some
advertising.

You couldn't pay me to be a forum member.

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HA Me either, but I have seen it.