Registrar lock just means the domain can't be transferred out from under
you. If the domain is registered, however, you can't legally take it anyhow.

What's the domain name?

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The domain names used to be registered but have expired for at least one
year.
I guess they're blocked forever :s

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Justin.
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Some registers will keep a domain when it expires. I had one tell me if I
didnt renew it with them that they would kep it after it went through
redeemption, etc...

Ok, now please answer: What's the domain name you're wondering about? (or names)


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Steve, I'll give you the example of a domain name that I have in my domain
name list, that I don't want anymore, that is expired, that I don't want,
but that is no available to public: gentoodesktop.com. It has the status
of "Registrar Lock". If I select it and select "Delete", I get an alert
saying that I'll have to pay a fee if I want to release the domain name.
So... I just leave the domain name in my list of expired domain names. No
one can register it, I don't want it either.


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Justin.
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I think you're right. This is sad.


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Well, I can explain what is happening.

The domain expired on 5/28 of this year.

Starting a couple years ago, expired domains aren't deleted out of the root
nameservers immediately. This was meant to prevent domain speculators from
jumping on them the minute the domains expired. Unfortunately, the domain
now goes into a redemption period for a month or so where you must pay a
relatively high amount of money to get the domain back. It's meant to
discourage domain brokers, but IMHO it screws honest people more than the
scammers.

Give it a few more weeks and it should be deleted.


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I think if you trust Viper about anything, you're being quite foolish. He
does not know what he's talking about.

As I explained in the other post I just made in this thread, the domain is
probably in redemption status. But OnlineNIC doesn't show the status.
Registrar lock normally shows as REGISTRAR-LOCK or something similar, but if
it expired and the grace period was over it would show REDEMPTION status, as
previously described.

OnlineNIC's whois really ought to show the status.

http://www.whois.sc/gentoodesktop.com


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drop to REDEEMPTION status. I emailed to get the domain back into my account
and renew it. The Register told me they needed $100. I told them I would
wait until it dropped and register it at another Register. They replied back
that I can do that BUT they have the option to KEEP the domain and use it
themselves after the redeemption period was over.

The only reason I got the domain back was because I went to a domain forum
that has 15,000 members and let them know what was said. The head/owner of
the register then posted at that forum and said they changed their rules and
I could have it for the $6.95/yr.

That is absolute bullshit, unless they plan on registering it. I'll thank
you to give me some credit for knowing exactly what I'm talking about; I've
been registering domain names since the mid-90s, and have helped many other
people too.

The ONLY way they get to keep it is if they register it when it drops out of
the root nameservers. They don't get to keep unregistered domains... and an
unregistered domain is useless anyhow, as it will not resolve!

Viper, I know you're an idiot, and most of the other people here know you're
an idiot. You don't have to make it blindingly obvious.

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Who ever said they wasnt going to register it?
BTW I forget the domain but I once seen one that was registered at
NetworkSolutions that was expired for well over 3 years and they had not
dropped it.

So now stop making an ass out of yourself.

That's not what you implied, and you know it. Of course if they register it,
it's gone. Of course, if anyone ELSE registers it, it's still gone.

But by pouncing on the domain the day it expires, they're no better than the
slimy domain brokers...

Never seen that... have seen domains stick around for months, but never that
long. Must have been a while ago...

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Yep.

It was 6 months to a year ago. I read about it somewhere and did a whois..
sure enough at the time it was expired and was over 3 years expired.

Hm. I would have figured it would be before Network Solutions lost their
monopoly on domain registrations. They were incompetent assholes back then,
but there was nowhere else to go.

I don't know how they are now; I dumped 'em a couple years ago.


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"Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"

Same here.

Just as a side note, for a while Netsol was definitely holding on to expired
names (they would not technically expire, so they would never go to
"redemption" status). Why? Because they suck SO BAD and were losing domains
so quickly from drops and transfers to other registrars that in order to
make themselves look better they were holding onto expired names instead of
dropping them.

- SG

I think the system works OK. After your name expires, you have 30 days to
change your mind and re-register the name at normal cost. Instead of then
releasing the name, Verisign keeps the name another 30 days just in case you
really really didn't want to lose the name (it is now in "redemption"
status). But, as penalty for being an idiot they charge you a buttload of
money. Believe me, plenty of people wait 40 or 50 days and then say "UHHH,
my name just stopped working???" Yeah, HELLO, did you not notice that a
month and a half ago? So, it's nice that it's harder for people to
accidentally lose their names and if you wait too long I think an "idiot
tax" is appropriate.

- SG

Sounds like the landlord that prefers to keep buildings empty than rent
them out cheap as the 'potential' income figures can be hiked more easily
than actual revenue.


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Hehe, I'll probably be calling it that from now on ;)

Grey

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If the grace period is now standard, I'd agree. It wasn't standard before.
Every registrar *seemed* to be different.

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"Life's like an hourglass glued to the table" --Anna Nalick, "Breathe"