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Richard
"Le Chevalier Noir" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Hello

I would like to use a sound on a web page. Something similar as an audio
"welcome" message.
The problem is I want this sound be played just the first time the page
is load.
I imagine it is possible, but I don't know how...

This is for the page http://www.mecatwin.com/fr/motos/hd/xlcr/

Le Chevalier Noir


Look up the attributes for "embed sound" then use loop="1".
don't use bgsound because that's only for IE.
loop="-1" would play continously.

Experienced but Undocumented
After falling in love with OE-Quotefix, I read what Experienced but
Undocumented wrote:
QUOTE
I would like to select a random row from my table.

Thanks all for the input. I ended up using the following:

$countrowsresult = mysql_query("SELECT COUNT(*) FROM table WHERE (stuff
happens)");
$num_rows = mysql_result($countrowsresult,0,"count(*)");

$random_row = round(rand(0, $num_rows - 1));
$result = mysql_query("SELECT * FROM table WHERE (stuff happens) LIMIT
$random_row, 1");

$row = mysql_fetch_row($result);
echo $row[1] . "<BR>We found $num_rows rows and chose a random row of
$random_row<BR><BR>";

It works well! But if anyone has suggestions of making it more efficient I
would be glad to hear them.
Graham

Richard
"Steve" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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"Fat Sam" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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I've just looked at the Copyright info on IE5 and it says this

<quote
Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic™; was developed at the National
Center
for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign.
</quote

What is Mosaic?......Is it a rowser that MS bought and bastardised into
IE,
or is it a different product that's actually still available?.....

Ahhh, young grasshopper; there was a time when IE did not exist, and all
this were nowt but fields....

http://www.kevcom.com/words/guide/guide.07.html

Steve.


No IE master? However did you manage to surf without it?
has anyone ever written a browser using nothing but gwbasic?
now that would be a major achievement eh?

Niko Jrvinen
"James Taylor" <[Email Removed]> kirjoitti viestiss
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"Andrew C. MacDonald" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Hi Matthias

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'm always amazed at how well
you Euros speak English (though you could be a transplanted American or
something . . .) I'm in Canada.

Thanks again,
Andrew
In Europe, they teach their kids English in school, as a subject.

Yeah, true.
Here in Finland we must choose one language which we start learning in 3rd
grade, usually its English but there
are also other possibilities like French, Deutsch or Russian. There are more
possibilities in bigger schools but these are the most usual.
In 5th grade we can start learning second language if we want, same
possibilities as I allready told.
In 7th grade we start learning Swedish as its our second mother tongue.
And in 8th grade we can start one more language. (same possibilities again)
So basically here we can learn 4 languages in elementary school.

Though not many students choose to learn any language in 5th or 8th grade.
Because they think English and Swedish are enough...

Of course you can study more languages in upper secondary school or in
college or
in any other second degree schools.

QUOTE
As a military brat, I had the privilege of living in Germany most of my
childhood. the local German kids could speak English almost as well as we
could.  We learned German from them B4 we had it as a subject in school.

Over here (In the U.S.A.) we don't make language a requirement (sigh)...in
fact, reading doesn't seem to be a requirement anymore....don't get me
started.

One of the many reasons why my wife and I homeschool.
Our kids speak two languages (learning a third ) and when tested each
year,
test out in the to 2% of the Nation for Public, Private and homeschooled
children...and posses superior social skills.

James Taylor
www.AICompany.com





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Sed vitam faciunt balnea, vina Venus.

Mike
"Le Chevalier Noir" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
Hello

I would like to use a sound on a web page. Something similar as an audio
"welcome" message.
The problem is I want this sound be played just the first time the page
is load.
I imagine it is possible, but I don't know how...

This is for the page http://www.mecatwin.com/fr/motos/hd/xlcr/

Le Chevalier Noir

Dave Stiles
In article <bd0rr7$of55m$[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] (William
Tasso) wrote:

QUOTE
try it - the online freebie still works ok.

So it does. Last time I tried it (admittedly ages ago) it had closed down.

--
Dave Stiles
http://shoppingdirectories.co.uk

John Bokma
Richard wrote:

[snip]


QUOTE
No IE master? However did you manage to surf without it?
has anyone ever written a browser using nothing but gwbasic?
now that would be a major achievement eh?

I sometimes use telnet, does that count?

John

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home: http://johnbokma.com/

Nathan W. Collier
"Richard" <anom@anom> wrote in message
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Even windows was a ripoff of the mac system.

according to pirates of the silicon valley, what gates stole was the
mouse.....not the operating system. and apple got the mouse from xerox.
some command line einstein at xerox didnt think there would be any future in
the mouse and a gui. i wonder if he feels stupid yet? :-)


--
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'03 Jeep Rubicon
Jeep and let Jeep

http://7SlotGrille.com

Patty
QUOTE
I'm starting to do a few sites but what's a ball park charge for a basic
site with no server-side action, say 10 pages?

Andrew,

I have an article that might help:

"What Should I Charge? Figuring Out Your Own Right Answer"
http://www.WebDevBiz.com


--
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http://www.WebDevBiz.com
Business Resources for Web Developers
Web Design Contract, Estimate Worksheet
--

Notorious Sharif
While shouting G-UNIT, Charles Sweeney wrote this:
QUOTE
"Notorious Sharif" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:ab%Ja.172672$[Email Removed]...

This week's quote:

"Freedom or jail, clips inserted, a baby's bein born, Same time my
man is murdered, the beginning and end" - Nas

Thanks Sharif, can't wait for next week's!

Yea,

Me neither - getting giddy!

--
Sharif Tanvir Karim
http://www.onlyonxbox.net

Fat Sam
QUOTE
I think it was intended as a compliment,

I realised this about ten minutes after I pressed 'send'.....I extend my
apologies to the original poster.....

QUOTE
But I know you Commonwealth types still have some gripes about your
former colonies ;-).

Must keep the natives in check old chap :-)

Ben M
Richard wrote:
QUOTE
Even windows was a ripoff of the mac system.

seems like the mac isn't adverse to taking good ideas from win XP
http://www.apple.com/macosx/panther/fast_user_switching.html

--
BenM
http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/

Mike
I would suggest trying Pay Per Click advertising -- pick some keywords
that aren't as general as simply "hotels" -- for example, if you have
specific pages for each city, you can try keyword combinations for
different pages -- i.e., hotels san francisco and links to a san
francisco hotels page. Or if your page is simply for a single hotel in
Atlanta, try hotels atlanta for example. You can get pretty
inexpensive pay per click advertising -- check out these pay per click
PPC reviews:

http://www.SterlingReport.com/business/pay-per-click.html

Good luck.

Mike


<news> wrote in message news:<3ed63e3e$0$29717$[Email Removed]>...
QUOTE
Hello
Submissions to search engines- can anyone suggets a way to get better
listings on main search engines for 'hotel accommodation'?
I have submited to main search engines but it is fiercely competitive. Are
there dedicated webrings that help improve positioning via links?
Does this really work or should I concentrate on submitting to the main
search engines?
I have numberous pages with the correct keywords etc but I'm not sure if
submitting more pages will help, or do the robots crawl through the links
automatically?
Thks. Les


Shiperton Henethe
"Seaking" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:03:25 +0100, "Shiperton Henethe"
<[Email Removed]> wrote:



It only points to where the image lives
not to the website hosting the image

My google must be better than your google.  If you search images and
follow the link for an image, it will give you a frame (or in OB1, a
link to the referring page) which gives you the page the image is
located on.  Sometimes, the links are broken because the page or image
has been moved ... but your scenario doesn't make sense.  Have you ever
clicked on an image in the google search?


Okay for example this image
http://www.auction-air.com/auction_2002_Oc...werbook_big.jpg
has been nicked by
this user on overture.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...6399&category=1
How do I find how many other sites are linking to
the image on the auction-air.com server?

An .htaccess hotlinking denial entry would prevent them from actualy
being able to hotlink it in the first place..

Dont understand this bit!
How does this work?


QUOTE
In your case, if you owned the image I would replace it with something
dorky to embarrass the horker.. fun playthings..

Yes but that would appear on our own site too.
Unless we renamed the image... in which case
they could use the renamed image too!

Ship

John Bokma
Shiperton Henethe wrote:

QUOTE
"Seaking" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message

[snip]

QUOTE
An .htaccess hotlinking denial entry would prevent them from actualy
being able to hotlink it in the first place..

Dont understand this bit!
How does this work?

In your case, if you owned the image I would replace it with something
dorky to embarrass the horker.. fun playthings..

And risking that a *legal* vistor sees this image, see below.

QUOTE
Yes but that would appear on our own site too.

Possible, see below.

QUOTE
Unless we renamed the image... in which case
they could use the renamed image too!

AFAIK the trick is to check the referrer and based on the referrer serve
a different image. However some browsers have a buggy referrer and some
others have the ability to fix the referrer string to some kind of
message like "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS"..

I recommend *against* using this "trick" because of this.

John

--
email: mail(at)johnbokma.com
home: http://johnbokma.com/

Bill Logan
"noSpam" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Hi,

I had to move a site and found a small but seemingly nice plan that
allowed me 20 Megs
disk / 2 Gigs transfert.

It all seemed Ok until I realized that my site was growing at an
alarming 2 Megs of space
every day. I finally found out that they include the logs in the disk
quota ...

The site quickly went over quota, preventing the rewrite of my
webboard's summary file
and erasing it in the process ... needless to say I was not thrilled !

Is this a common practice ?

Yes, it is usually your responsibility to nuke the logs at regular

intervals - or set up a cron job to do it for you.

Bill Logan
"Richard" <anom@anom> wrote in message
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"OJ" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Hi there,

So with all the font size constant discussion about accessibility,
etc...

No one seems to have issues with acrobat files.  What makes this so?
I'm wondering if it because you can "zoom" in to view whatever size
you need.

Why don't browsers treat the page like a piece of paper or pdf, and
let you zoom in on the section that you wan?  The layout would stay
the same, relationships would stay the same, the arrangement wouldn't
contantly be changing, etc....

Why is the world not like this?

oj

If you have windows ME you may have "magnifyer" which would allow you to
do
just that.
Look around at various download sites and you may find one more suitable
to
your needs.
I really hate pdf stuff anyway. It kind of shows me that the writer is
just
to damn lazy to put the text into html format.
And if you want to copy and paste a paragraph, you can't do it.
Which provides a good reason for delivering stuff via pdf


John Bokma
Bill Logan wrote:

QUOTE
"noSpam" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:SYZJa.2404$[Email Removed]...

Hi,

I had to move a site and found a small but seemingly nice plan that
allowed me 20 Megs
disk / 2 Gigs transfert.

It all seemed Ok until I realized that my site was growing at an
alarming 2 Megs of space
every day. I finally found out that they include the logs in the disk
quota ...

The site quickly went over quota, preventing the rewrite of my
webboard's summary file
and erasing it in the process ... needless to say I was not thrilled !

Is this a common practice ?


Yes, it is usually your responsibility to nuke the logs at regular
intervals - or set up a cron job to do it for you.

Strange. My hosting provider *does* do the log file rotating and
archiving for me. And I am quite sure that the size of the log file is
*not* included in the quota (but I might be wrong here).

John

--
email: mail(at)johnbokma.com
home: http://johnbokma.com/

Isofarro
Steve wrote:

QUOTE
And where did Steve Jobs get his ideas?

Ultimately we all have Xerox Parc to thank for a great many things.

And Douglas Engelbart, and Vannevar Bush.


--
Iso.
FAQs: http://html-faq.com http://alt-html.org http://allmyfaqs.com/
Recommended Hosting: http://www.affordablehost.com/
Web Standards: http://www.webstandards.org/

Gordon Hudson
"noSpam" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
Hi,

I had to move a site and found a small but seemingly nice plan that
allowed me 20 Megs
disk / 2 Gigs transfert.

It all seemed Ok until I realized that my site was growing at an
alarming 2 Megs of space
every day. I finally found out that they include the logs in the disk
quota ...

The site quickly went over quota, preventing the rewrite of my
webboard's summary file
and erasing it in the process ... needless to say I was not thrilled !

Is this a common practice ?

It used to be, but most server management systems store
the log files in a central directory seperate from users accounts.
If you look for a host that uses Cpanel your logs will not be stored in your
account.
However, the database used to generate your web stats (which is derived
from the logs is stored in your account) but it is a fraction of the size.


--
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e-mail:ghudson [at] hostroute.net
http://www.hostroute.com/ Web Hosting and Dedicated Servers
http://www.nameroute.com/ Domain Names with free hosting and email $15

OJ
Eric Jarvis <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:<[Email Removed]>...
QUOTE
OJ wrote:
Hi there,

So with all the font size constant discussion about accessibility,
etc...

No one seems to have issues with acrobat files.  What makes this so?
I'm wondering if it because you can "zoom" in to view whatever size
you need.

Why don't browsers treat the page like a piece of paper or pdf, and
let you zoom in on the section that you wan?  The layout would stay
the same, relationships would stay the same, the arrangement wouldn't
contantly be changing, etc....

Why is the world not like this?



Hi,

QUOTE
because it's a right royal pain in the proverbials having
to mess around with zoom and scrolling because some moron
is too precious about their lboody design to allow it to
work on the web

Let's rethink web here, just for a minute and think of it as a
presentational _and_ informational device. Why shouldn't a designer
be able to do whatever they can design in a layout program?

QUOTE

pdf is great for printing from...and by and large it's
possible to get at the content eventually...but html, in
the right hands, delivers instantly and universally
accessible content in the vast majority of situations

Don't think pdf. That was just an example.

QUOTE

if I spent my time wandering around the web completely
amazed by the stunningly executed and beautifully
realised pages then there would be the glimmerings of a
case for that level of designer to override the
flexibility of html...unfortunately that simply isn't the
case...mostly when a site is inaccessible it still looks,
at best, competent

Maybe people are hampered by the limitations/quirks/problems with html
and css and this limits their work.

QUOTE

IMO far too many web designers are people who have failed
to make the grade as designers in other fields and spend
their time moaning about how the web isn't like the stuff
they used to do on their design course instead of
learning to actually use the medium

That isn't really the discussion, here.

oj


QUOTE

there is no problem with allowing flexible font
sizes...there is no problem with sometimes overriding
that with pixel specification...IF YOU HAVE THE TALENT TO
MAKE AN IMPACT WITH IT...otherwise (and this is almost
always the case) it's just making the page inaccessible
in order to boost ones ego


Greg Hewitt-Long
noSpam <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:<SYZJa.2404$[Email Removed]>...
QUOTE
Hi,

I had to move a site and found a small but seemingly nice plan that
allowed me 20 Megs
disk / 2 Gigs transfert.

It all seemed Ok until I realized that my site was growing at an
alarming 2 Megs of space
every day. I finally found out that they include the logs in the disk
quota ...

2 mb of data in logs a day - you must have a busy site.

QUOTE

The site quickly went over quota, preventing the rewrite of my
webboard's summary file
and erasing it in the process ... needless to say I was not thrilled !

You host should be rotating the site logfiles to prevent this
occuring.

QUOTE

Is this a common practice ?

Is what common practice?

The allocation of your data to your account is common. Whether your
host is performing the necessary housekeeping to prevent your logfiles
exceeding your quota is another matter - and I'd say it's probably NOT
common.

You might ask yourself if this is something that might indicate a
larger problem - for one, I'd expect any host worth their salt to
notice when a site approaches it's limit, and investigate.

I'd also expect the host to notice the logfiles were growing at an
alarming rate. 10% of total disk quota is what we allocate for the
http logfile as standard on our customer accounts - when this size is
exceeded, the logfile is compressed and a new one started. This would
happen every day in your case, unless the logfiles were allowed to
grow to a larger size.

If I were you, I'd ask the host why they aren't rotating the logfiles
- although they may leave that to their users - we consider it a
system administration function, and it should be transparent to the
end user. It might be that their log rotation script has stopped - in
which case, I'd have thought they might have noticed... if not.. .why
not?!?

regards

Greg Hewitt-Long
QUOTE

Eric.


QUOTE
Hi Matthias

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'm always amazed at how well
you Euros speak English (though you could be a transplanted American or
something . . .) I'm in Canada.

Thanks again,
Andrew
In Europe, they teach their kids English in school, as a subject.

Yeah, true.
Here in Finland we must choose one language which we start learning in 3rd
grade, usually its English but there
are also other possibilities like French, Deutsch or Russian. There are more
possibilities in bigger schools but these are the most usual.
[SNIP]

What do they say again...? An optimist is one who learns Russian; a pessimist is one who
learns chinese.

William Tasso
rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski wrote:
QUOTE
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
"Richard" <anom@anom> wrote in message
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Even windows was a ripoff of the mac system.

according to pirates of the silicon valley, what gates stole was the
mouse.....not the operating system.  and apple got the mouse from
xerox. some command line einstein at xerox didnt think there would be
any future in the mouse and a gui.  i wonder if he feels stupid yet?
:-)

Yeah, Microsoft didn't steal anything from Apple that Apple itself
didn't steal. ;) From what I have read, it wasn't that some command
line Einstein at Xerox thought there was no future in a mouse and
GUI. While at the Xerox PARC they had some really bright computer
people, the top brass at Xerox really didn't see the future for the
company as being the next IBM. Steve Job's once called them a bunch
of "copier heads", who just didn't realize the value of what the gang
at PARC created. Thus, it wasn't that it was a command line fan that
was responsible, but instead non-geeks who didn't see the future of
Xerox in computers.

Xerox made some pretty big inroads into IT early on. Anyone remember the
Sigma range? Sigma 6, Sigma 9 etc.

The way I heard it, a nice man from IBM called his counterpart at Xerox to
say "We think the main-frame computer market is getting a little crowded,
we're thinking of diversifying into photo-copiers" The result is history.

--
William Tasso - http://www.WilliamTasso.com

William Tasso
Bill Logan wrote:
QUOTE
"Eric Jarvis" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
OJ wrote:
Hi there,

So with all the font size constant discussion about accessibility,
etc...

there is no problem with allowing flexible font
sizes...there is no problem with sometimes overriding
that with pixel specification...IF YOU HAVE THE TALENT TO
MAKE AN IMPACT WITH IT...otherwise (and this is almost
always the case) it's just making the page inaccessible
in order to boost ones ego

Is that so bad? Even egos need boosting from time to time.

Self generated ego boosting? For that, there is masterbation.

--
William Tasso - http://www.WilliamTasso.com

William Tasso
OJ wrote:
QUOTE
Eric Jarvis <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:<[Email Removed]>...
OJ wrote:
Hi there,

So with all the font size constant discussion about accessibility,
etc...

No one seems to have issues with acrobat files.  What makes this so?
I'm wondering if it because you can "zoom" in to view whatever size
you need.


because it's a right royal pain in the proverbials having
to mess around with zoom and scrolling because some moron
is too precious about their lboody design to allow it to
work on the web

Let's rethink web here, just for a minute and think of it as a
presentational _and_ informational device.  Why shouldn't a designer
be able to do whatever they can design in a layout program?


Who said you can't? Nobody even said you shouldn't. They just said don't do
it on the web.

All you have to do is write a program that delivers your design and
distribute the software to all your visitors. It's blindingly simple. Of
course the chances of complete strangers wanting desperately to see your
(anyones) design are close to zero, but hey that's what marketing is for and
if you give folk enough reasons (think benefits) they will install and run
your application.

--
William Tasso - http://www.WilliamTasso.com

EightNineThree
"Matt Probert" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:03:07 GMT "Notorious Sharif"
<[Email Removed]> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at Road
Runner - NYC to write:

And if he can afford to deal in $4500 computers, he can afford to play
by the rules, and stop hiding behind the young and naive excuses.


Well you guys are my friends so I guess I can make this statement:

"Sh*t, like I paid for it at all"


Implying that it's stolen? Like the JVC CD Receiver which went from my
car this morning.....I am not a happy man today.

JVC? Do these thieves not have any better taste than that?


--
Karl Core

Charles Sweeney says my sig is fine as it is.

Travis
Bill Logan, you are so out of touch with this situation is it funny.
You obviously are not a Totalnic customer.

I hesitate to even waste another second of time regarding Totalnic but
a little more venting can't hurt.

We tried to transfer our domains away 17 months ago and I'll spare the
details but it has been a nightmare (as you all can imagine). Luckily
we were able to transfer our main e-commerce domain away after about a
year (it looks like by accident!) otherwise we would have had to have
taken legal action. We decided to let all the domains expire and then
re-register the ones we wanted to keep the minute they became
available (about 70 days after they expire). Ridiculous. These guys
wanted copies of our Articles of Incorporation, which we sent them
more than once. One of the big problems is that you cannot send any
documents to them with signature required because they reject them -
they say they only accept 'regular' (slow) International Mail. So
there is no way to ever verify if and when they received the
documents. And then ironically, if you try to communicate with them
via e-mail, they say to send a letter to their administrative office
in Australia. Ya but what if I'm trying to verify if you even
received the letter? We wasted hours and hours of long distance
phone bills waiting on hold.

The worst thing is, technically, as far as we can tell, they are not
doing anything overtly illegal aside from being extremely unresponsive
which if goes on long enough could probably end up being illegal,
especially if their irresponsibility does damage to a business that
relies on being able to control domain registered with them.

The main problem is the body which governs them, ICANN, has a bunch of
technical requirements to become an ICANN accredited registrar but
there are no customer service requirements whatsoever and there is
virtually no oversight on the part of ICANN as far as insuring even a
basic level of customer service is met by registrars. Maybe someday
ICANN will get sued along with the abusive registrar for negligence
and things will change?

Over my 20+ years in business and 8+ years doing business with
numerous Internet-related companies, I have never encountered anything
like the level of unresponsiveness and customer neglect that I have
from this company, Capital Networks, aka, Totalnic. It is so bad that
it makes me extremely curious to know who these people are and what
they are thinking. I'm not a violent person, I'm very patient,
flexible, and understanding. But I must admit I have enjoyed thinking
of the chance to take a bat to the head of the person(s) who are
behind this farce of business. Can you imagine being an employee at
this company? It can't be a pretty picture, their revenues have to
have sunk over the last couple years.

One word of advice (not sure if this still works), if you want to
transfer a domain away from them that is registered to a business,
first create an account in your individual name and transfer the
domains to that account (you personally) before trying to transfer
them away from Totalnic. This makes your chances of success much
better as the documentation requirements for an individual as opposed
to a business are not as stringent. We made the mistake of attempting
the transfer first and then they locked our domains so we couldn't
change the registered owner. The reason they do this is that even
though all their transfer requirements are done in the name of
'security' (more like greed), they realize that within their system
anyone can change the ownership of a domain without any documentation
whatsoever. What a joke. And technically (at least since the last
time I checked), they aren't violating an ICANN policy because ICANN
doesn't impose any documentation requirements on domain ownership
change or registrar transfer - they leave it at the discretion of the
registrar so Totalnic can be a strict as they want when it comes to
losing business an as easy as they want when it comes to transfers
within their system in which they don't lose business.

The whole situation has been completely insane. These guys are
unreal. I will be so happy the day they go out of business.

"Bill Logan" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:<[Email Removed]>...
QUOTE
<[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:bctsmk$[Email Removed]...

They keep sending me emails that tell me they've send prior emails.  (see
below). But they keep saying that my notarized forms have not been
received,
but they will not accept any delivery method that requires a signature
(aka
proof).
AND......... they have a WARNING at the bottom of their email that their
emails cannot be posted/disseminated, etc. In other words, make sure you
don't
tell anyone that they're crooks.
I'm calling an attorney tomorrow.


lucy





Dear Madam,

We received information that you phoned the US support center today
stating
you did not receive a reply to your previous call (which requested a
follow-up regarding a verification form). Our records show that an e-mail
was sent to yourself at _________  on 6/17/2003. The text of that
message was:

We received information that you phoned the US support center regarding
the
status of the verification form submitted for manuscriptediting.com. If
you
have not yet received an e-mail regarding the form, then the form has not
yet been received. Our business offices will contact the listed
administrative contact directly once the form has been received and acted
upon appropriately.

Please note: TotalNIC's mail handling facility deals with large volumes of
postal correspondence in an ordered fashion. For this reason we are unable
to accept mail requiring personal attendance at the postal delivery
facilities by staff members. Transfer authority forms specify the use of
regular postal mail to ensure delivery. If you send an item of
correspondence which requires signature authorization prior to effecting
delivery it can not be collected and your document cannot be processed. If
your document cannot be processed we cannot assist you in making updates
which require written authority.

Two things.
No matter how unpalatable, following the process laid out by a registrar is
the surest way of getting a result. Trying to buck the system only provides
headaches! Having said that, remeber totalnic is answerable for any
misconduct. So, if you follow their proceedures exactly and then do not get
a result you have justification for ldging a complain with ICANN.

Second. I do not see the problem, there is no indictaion either in the whois
or zone records that indicate a registrar lock on your name - assuming it is
the name mentioned in the above e-mail?

Question - have they perhaps already received the notarised docs and taken
action to lift the lock without saying so? Maybe a case of left hand right
hand ?

Test it by doing trying a transfer of the name.


rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski
William Tasso wrote:

QUOTE
The way I heard it, a nice man from IBM called his counterpart at
Xerox to say "We think the main-frame computer market is getting a
little crowded, we're thinking of diversifying into photo-copiers"
The result is history.

Heh. ;) Although, I question if anyone at IBM was that smart. IBM had
already blown it by making the PC open architecture, which made it
possible for others to come out with PC clones. Very uncharacteristic of
IBM. From what I've read it seems that they became worried that they
already were way behind Apple, and going closed architecture would have
delayed entry into the market too long for their comfort. Ended up bad
for IBM, but made Bill Gates richer than God.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/
For information about the psychedelic DXM, including dangers.

Eric Jarvis
John Bokma wrote:
QUOTE
Richard wrote:

[snip]

No IE master? However did you manage to surf without it?
has anyone ever written a browser using nothing but gwbasic?
now that would be a major achievement eh?

I sometimes use telnet, does that count?


nope...it's all amateur unless you simply whistle down
the phone

command line?...fripperies a professional shouldn't nee

Eric Jarvis
Marc Bissonnette wrote:
QUOTE

And me. You all have me to thank for a bunch of stuff.

Why ? I dunno, I just think you should all be thanking me for stuff :)


'nk you

<kicks empty Diet Coke can...walks off>

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"Hey Lord don't ask me questions
There ain't no answer in me"

William Tasso
rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski wrote:
QUOTE
William Tasso wrote:

The way I heard it, a nice man from IBM called his counterpart at
Xerox to say "We think the main-frame computer market is getting a
little crowded, we're thinking of diversifying into photo-copiers"
The result is history.

Heh. ;) Although, I question if anyone at IBM was that smart.

Was it smart? IBM should have got into photocopiers and then printers,
faxes, multi-function devices etc. Seems like muddle-headed corporate panic
to me.

QUOTE
IBM had already blown it by making the PC open architecture,

This story predates the PC by at least 5 years.

--
William Tasso - http://www.WilliamTasso.com

Eric Jarvis
OJ wrote:
QUOTE

Let's rethink web here, just for a minute and think of it as a
presentational _and_ informational device.  Why shouldn't a designer
be able to do whatever they can design in a layout program?


erm...lets rethink wheel here, just for a minute and
think of it as a fashion accessory for a car...why
shouldn't a designer make it any shape they like?

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"Hey Lord don't ask me questions
There ain't no answer in me"

citron
To start, I want to thank everyone for their replies. I have posted
this question elsewhere, and no one could provide as much useful
information as you guys.

The reason I wanted to find a host with this specific Webmail software
is because I have setup email accounts through Register.com for family
members that are not very computer literate. So I wanted to make the
transfer as painless as possible for them.

My current host offers Horde and Neomail. I am not a big fan of the
user interfaces for either of those products.

Laurence, would you happen to know which mail systems Register.com is
considering?

Laurence Sherzer <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:<[Email Removed]>...
QUOTE
Critical Path was setup for Register.com. To learn more about their
system go to cp.net. Critical Path is an expensive mail solution for
hosting companies. Most are moving away from CP due to price
considerations. There is a project underway to move Register.com onto an
alternative mail system. I know that bigstep uses CP for mail, if you
really want to use the CP webmail interface.  There  are  several
choices for webmail that are free. We use Horde (open source) for our
hosted domains.  I run MailReader on one of my test accounts
laurencesherzer.com. MailReader is designed to let anyone check mail
from anywhere. It is a set of perl cgi scripts that are easy to setup
and use. It is available for download at mailreader.com/download

-Laurence



citron wrote:
Would anyone happen to know which Webmail software Register.com and
PeoplePC use? I have searched the Internet extensively for this
answer, but have not found the information. I emailed the support for
both companies, but was blown off. I'm sure other companies use the
same Webmail software, but those are the only two I have run across
thus far.

The reason I ask: I am looking for a new web hosting company, and I
want to be able to specify this Webmail software as a requirement.


Bill Logan
"Travis" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE
Bill Logan, you are so out of touch with this situation is it funny.
You obviously are not a Totalnic customer.

You are probably right, I have only been selling domain names for 3 years so

my knowledge is limited. Also I am not a totalnic customer. Why would I buy
from them when I can do it myself for less than $7 per year?

One thing I can tell you is that where there is a problem, in almost every
case, the fault lies with the clients failure to follow the correct,
(Registrars) proceedure. Registrars cannot refuse a transfer request within
the transfer periods laid down by ICANN unless there is a valid reason such
as non payment of fees or failure to respond to a request from the
registrant/admin e-mail of record.

Yes, some registrars have a record of making it difficult to transfer, and
yes, sometimes it can unfortunately take time. But realistically, those are
only reasons for doing your research prior to registering a domain name.

Of course, when you have a bad experience with a registrar it makes it
difficult to accept that there may be reasons for the failure to deliver
which are not the fault of the registrar.

Even though I do not support totalnic nor am I involved with them in any way
I also know there are a lot of satisfied customers with them - just as there
are no doubt many who are not. I guess it is a bit like hosts. In this group
there have been many complaints about some hosts. The fact is that after
many posts, in most cases the complainer turns out to have been at fault.
Only in an occasional instance has the host been at fault. What it comes
down to is that more often than not the person witrh the problem is usually
the cause of the problem.

I do not mean that is the case with your situation but without all the
information related to the issue it is difficult to accept that a registrar,
with all that is at stake, would deliberately screw people. There is just
far too much money involved.



QUOTE
I hesitate to even waste another second of time regarding Totalnic but
a little more venting can't hurt.

We tried to transfer our domains away 17 months ago and I'll spare the
details but it has been a nightmare (as you all can imagine).  Luckily
we were able to transfer our main e-commerce domain away after about a
year (it looks like by accident!) otherwise we would have had to have
taken legal action.  We decided to let all the domains expire and then
re-register the ones we wanted to keep the minute they became
available (about 70 days after they expire).  Ridiculous.  These guys
wanted copies of our Articles of Incorporation, which we sent them
more than once.  One of the big problems is that you cannot send any
documents to them with signature required because they reject them -
they say they only accept 'regular' (slow) International Mail.  So
there is no way to ever verify if and when they received the
documents.  And then ironically, if you try to communicate with them
via e-mail, they say to send a letter to their administrative office
in Australia.  Ya but what if I'm trying to verify if you even
received the letter?  We wasted hours and hours of long distance
phone bills waiting on hold.

The worst thing is, technically, as far as we can tell, they are not
doing anything overtly illegal aside from being extremely unresponsive
which if goes on long enough could probably end up being illegal,
especially if their irresponsibility does damage to a business that
relies on being able to control domain registered with them.

The main problem is the body which governs them, ICANN, has a bunch of
technical requirements to become an ICANN accredited registrar but
there are no customer service requirements whatsoever and there is
virtually no oversight on the part of ICANN as far as insuring even a
basic level of customer service is met by registrars.  Maybe someday
ICANN will get sued along with the abusive registrar for negligence
and things will change?

Over my 20+ years in business and 8+ years doing business with
numerous Internet-related companies, I have never encountered anything
like the level of unresponsiveness and customer neglect that I have
from this company, Capital Networks, aka, Totalnic. It  is so bad that
it makes me extremely curious to know who these people are and what
they are thinking.  I'm not a violent person, I'm very patient,
flexible, and understanding.  But I must admit I have enjoyed thinking
of the chance to take a bat to the head of the person(s) who are
behind this farce of business. Can you imagine being an employee at
this company?  It can't be a pretty picture, their revenues have to
have sunk over the last couple years.

One word of advice (not sure if this still works), if you want to
transfer a domain away from them that is registered to a business,
first create an account in your individual name and transfer the
domains to that account (you personally) before trying to transfer
them away from Totalnic.  This makes your chances of success much
better as the documentation requirements for an individual as opposed
to a business are not as stringent.  We made the mistake of attempting
the transfer first and then they locked our domains so we couldn't
change the registered owner.  The reason they do this is that even
though all their transfer requirements are done in the name of
'security' (more like greed), they realize that within their system
anyone can change the ownership of a domain without any documentation
whatsoever.  What a joke.  And technically (at least since the last
time I checked), they aren't violating an ICANN policy because ICANN
doesn't impose any documentation requirements on domain ownership
change or registrar transfer - they leave it at the discretion of the
registrar so Totalnic can be a strict as they want when it comes to
losing business an as easy as they want when it comes to transfers
within their system in which they don't lose business.

The whole situation has been completely insane.  These guys are
unreal.  I will be so happy the day they go out of business.

"Bill Logan" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:<[Email Removed]>...
<[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:bctsmk$[Email Removed]...

They keep sending me emails that tell me they've send prior emails.
(see
below). But they keep saying that my notarized forms have not been
received,
but they will not accept any delivery method that requires a signature
(aka
proof).
AND......... they have a WARNING at the bottom of their email that
their
emails cannot be posted/disseminated, etc. In other words, make sure
you
don't
tell anyone that they're crooks.
I'm calling an attorney tomorrow.


lucy





Dear Madam,

We received information that you phoned the US support center today
stating
you did not receive a reply to your previous call (which requested a
follow-up regarding a verification form). Our records show that an
e-mail
was sent to yourself at _________  on 6/17/2003. The text of that
message was:

We received information that you phoned the US support center
regarding
the
status of the verification form submitted for manuscriptediting.com.
If
you
have not yet received an e-mail regarding the form, then the form has
not
yet been received. Our business offices will contact the listed
administrative contact directly once the form has been received and
acted
upon appropriately.

Please note: TotalNIC's mail handling facility deals with large
volumes of
postal correspondence in an ordered fashion. For this reason we are
unable
to accept mail requiring personal attendance at the postal delivery
facilities by staff members. Transfer authority forms specify the use
of
regular postal mail to ensure delivery. If you send an item of
correspondence which requires signature authorization prior to
effecting
delivery it can not be collected and your document cannot be
processed. If
your document cannot be processed we cannot assist you in making
updates
which require written authority.

Two things.
No matter how unpalatable, following the process laid out by a registrar
is
the surest way of getting a result. Trying to buck the system only
provides
headaches! Having said that, remeber totalnic is answerable for any
misconduct. So, if you follow their proceedures exactly and then do not
get
a result you have justification for ldging a complain with ICANN.

Second. I do not see the problem, there is no indictaion either in the
whois
or zone records that indicate a registrar lock on your name - assuming
it is
the name mentioned in the above e-mail?

Question - have they perhaps already received the notarised docs and
taken
action to lift the lock without saying so? Maybe a case of left hand
right
hand ?

Test it by doing trying a transfer of the name.


Experienced but Undocumented
After falling in love with OE-Quotefix, I read what Fat Sam wrote:
QUOTE
That's a very conceited and condescending viewpoint if you don't mind
me saying so.....After all, the language does originate from Europe,
not the Americas......

I thought he was _complimenting_ Matthias on his language skills which,
statistically speaking, aren't as prolific in North America.

-G

William Tasso
Globe City wrote:
QUOTE
Today, we can all say good-bye to traditional Web hosting...

good bye - it's been fun.

--
William Tasso - traditional web hosting

Matt Probert
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:53:47 +0100 "Fat Sam"
<[Email Removed]> broke off from drinking a cup of tea
at to write:

QUOTE
I've just looked at the Copyright info on IE5 and it says this

<quote
Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic™; was developed at the National Center
for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign.
</quote

What is Mosaic?......Is it a rowser that MS bought and bastardised into IE,
or is it a different product that's actually still available?.....


<BG>

It's *the* original web browser, from many years ago. And yes it is
still available!

Matt

--
A massive matrix of concise, interlinked encyclopaedia information.
For when you just want to know, quickly and easily.
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com

William Tasso
rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski wrote:
QUOTE
William Tasso wrote:

This story predates the PC by at least 5 years.

Elaborate?

I started working with Xerox Sigma 9s in 1976. IIRC these machines were
already out of production by then. I would have heard that story some time
between summer '76 and summer '77. The place I worked at had 4 of the
beasties in the UK, more in the States and Canada.

128k of RAM filled a whole cabinet, the disks were those huge washing
machine like removable jobbies - can't remember the capacity, 4Mb perhaps.

The swap device(s) was a huge lump of spinning steel with fixed heads.

--
William Tasso - http://www.WilliamTasso.com

David Venn-Brown
GreyWyvern wrote:
QUOTE
On 24 Jun 2003 06:38:08 -0700, OJ <[Email Removed]> wrote:

Hi there,

So with all the font size constant discussion about accessibility,
etc...

No one seems to have issues with acrobat files.  What makes this so?
I'm wondering if it because you can "zoom" in to view whatever size
you need.

Why don't browsers treat the page like a piece of paper or pdf, and
let you zoom in on the section that you wan?  The layout would stay
the same, relationships would stay the same, the arrangement wouldn't
contantly be changing, etc....

Why is the world not like this?


Opera already does this.  And if Opera does, I'm pretty sure Mozilla
does... someone enlighten me here, please.

AFAIK Opera has the only 'true' zoom.

David Venn-Brown
Nathan W. Collier wrote:

QUOTE
"Richard" <anom@anom> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...

Even windows was a ripoff of the mac system.


according to pirates of the silicon valley, what gates stole was the
mouse.....not the operating system.  and apple got the mouse from xerox.
some command line einstein at xerox didnt think there would be any future in
the mouse and a gui.  i wonder if he feels stupid yet?  :-)

As WW2 drew to an end, my Grandfather, who worked for DeHaviland
Australia at the time (on propellers) met with Mr Sikorsky (spelling?)
who was at the forefront of the development of the helicopter. My
Grandfather was inspired by this and took the concept of a helicopter
back to his boss. The reply:

"What will they use them for?"

Le Chevalier Noir
thank you!

Mike wrote:

QUOTE
"Le Chevalier Noir" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
Hello

I would like to use a sound on a web page. Something similar as an audio
"welcome" message.
The problem is I want this sound be played just the first time the page
is load.
I imagine it is possible, but I don't know how...

This is for the page http://www.mecatwin.com/fr/motos/hd/xlcr/

Le Chevalier Noir


read here:
http://www.htmlclinic.com/bgsound.php


Le Chevalier Noir
Hello

Thank you for your help, but what I want is something different :
When someone see the page for the first time, i want the sound been played 1
time.
Then, if this persone visit other pages and come back, I would like the sound
not been played at all this time.

Le Chevalier Noir

Richard wrote:

QUOTE
"Le Chevalier Noir" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
Hello

I would like to use a sound on a web page. Something similar as an audio
"welcome" message.
The problem is I want this sound be played just the first time the page
is load.
I imagine it is possible, but I don't know how...

This is for the page http://www.mecatwin.com/fr/motos/hd/xlcr/

Le Chevalier Noir


Look up the attributes for "embed sound" then use loop="1".
don't use bgsound because that's only for IE.
loop="-1" would play continously.


William Tasso
Le Chevalier Noir wrote:
QUOTE
...
When someone see the page for the first time, i want the sound been
played 1 time.
Then, if this persone visit other pages and come back, I would like
the sound not been played at all this time.

Does your server support sessions and scripting?

--
William Tasso - http://www.WilliamTasso.com

Snake Lady
"Nathan W. Collier" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:6G_Ja.94641$[Email Removed]...
QUOTE
"Matt Probert" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
Implying that it's stolen?

nah, sounds to me like he finanaced it and stopped making payments.

To sell something with finance owing on it is still an offence.....

Edward Alfert
QUOTE
My current host offers Horde and Neomail.  I am not a big fan of the user
interfaces for either of those products.

I've installed both Horde and Neomail but I prefer squirrelmail. It is
free and has TONS of plugins and is under very active development.

http://www.squirrelmail.org/

Oh..did I mention it is free?

--
Edward Alfert, President, RootMode, LLC
http://www.rootmode.com/

Kim Andr Aker
<[Email Removed]> skrev i melding
news:3ef8a442$1$60367$[Email Removed]...
QUOTE
Memeber's Area Back Door!



http://www.spammityspam.com/mespam/spamevenmore/l/



check this shit out!
ehwrlbwyzls

If the Internet supported the feature, I'd slap you. A lot.

--
Kim Andr Aker
- [Email Removed]
- ICQ: 92708098

Notorious Sharif
While shouting G-UNIT, Nathan W. Collier wrote this:
QUOTE
"Matt Probert" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
Implying that it's stolen?

nah, sounds to me like he finanaced it and stopped making payments.


....nah...

--
Sharif Tanvir Karim
http://www.onlyonxbox.net

GreyWyvern
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:22:16 -0400, GreyWyvern
<[Email Removed]_am> wrote:

QUOTE
If the Internet supported the feature, I'd slap you. A lot.

You merely have to install RemoteSlap v3.7.8
However, it only runs on Windows and it's a buggy as hell.  Half the time
you'll just end up smacking some poor guy in the middle of Hoboken.  :/

I couldn't help myself :(

http://www.greywyvern.com/img/misc/newsoftware.png

Grey

--
The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the
pitfall corollory that nothing is ridiculous.
- http://www.greywyvern.com - Orca RingMaker: PHP web ring creation and
management


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