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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:16:56 -0700, "Mike..." <[Email Removed] wrote: in article [Email Removed], Andrew - Supernews at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 6:49 PM: What is going on is very simple: we won't violate our privacy policies simply to "win" a debate in public. So you think you will "win"? hahahahaha. I know that based on what I have read the last day or so I would never engage Mike for any artistic needs that I may have in my Printing business. Mike, you really need to seek help. You are loosing it badly. J.P. |
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in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 7:43 PM: I know that based on what I have read the last day or so I would never engage Mike for any artistic needs... Is there some reason I should care what your opinion is of me? Little news for you, I pick and choose my clients, and you don't measure up. You are found wanting. Move on. That's OK! |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:34:56 GMT, reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: In article <BC9DC45C.F2D20%[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 3:05 PM: You (SUPERNEWS) blocked a paying customer based upon FAKED MESSAGES. I'm coming in a little late; can you post proof, please? Supernews employee posted them. Not me. I don't give a rat's ass who posted them, where are the headers, and legit headers for comparison. Now run along and keep your nose out of things that don't concern you. if he is supernews, ad this happened over his server, he is involved. Not now. He is just a Supernews flunky that is trying to cover his ass. cover his ass from what exposure? what did *he do? if he posted fakes, he's involved. if he made a decision, he's involved. if he's answering a complaint, he's involved. Well, the real story it seems is Supernews FILTERS artistmike due to the excessive number of posts he makes. |
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In article <[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:27:26 GMT, reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: In article <BC9DBC83.F2D01%[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 2:29 PM: ...nice! this is going to be fun <g Even "Mike" can play with you, you goofball. play. yes, play; that is what I have in mind. I have to meet all the players first, though. don't be rude; I'm doing this without lurking first. Just check the email and the .sig. Pretty bad frogeries. There is only one 'Ratz and he be me. Pretty lame how he is going about getting ready to lose another NSP. Nobody ever said spammers were smart. I see you are using MP Gravity just bozo on the email and everything is cool. froggy has an l inplace of the i. To verify, just go back a few days and check the aratzio posts. When done come on back and join the fun. 'Ratz I did, earlier. there is a better way to tell you apart, but I don't want to tell him how to make beter forgeries. I want to make him post. I may talk reasonably with him, but don't misunderstand me. |
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They post just as many messages as I do in a day... and they have their link in each message. But it is not ok for me to do the same, because they don't like my "attitude" or they don't like the topics that I choose to post about, or they don't like getting crybabies writing to them about my "mean" messages. Tough. They are out of the loop now. |
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They are liars at Supernews. They lie to cover their tracks. They censor and they use forged messages to try and justify their actions. The service sucks and they know it. |
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Why are you? |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:51:03 -0700, "Mike..." <[Email Removed] wrote: in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 7:43 PM: I know that based on what I have read the last day or so I would never engage Mike for any artistic needs... Is there some reason I should care what your opinion is of me? Little news for you, I pick and choose my clients, and you don't measure up. You are found wanting. Move on. That's OK! I purchase all of the Graphics needs for the County of Riverside here in California. We have many different departments that all have different Logo and Graphics needs. Glad that you don't want me to put you on the approved vendor list. Trust me I won't. };- J.P. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:13:29 -0700, "Mike..." <[Email Removed] wrote: They post just as many messages as I do in a day... and they have their link in each message. But it is not ok for me to do the same, because they don't like my "attitude" or they don't like the topics that I choose to post about, or they don't like getting crybabies writing to them about my "mean" messages. Tough. They are out of the loop now. The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself. J.P. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:04:57 -0400, Zimphire <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: In article <[Email Removed]>, reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> wrote: In article <BC9D913F.F2953%[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... darn. you guys mean your troll has been filtered by his NSP? UDP'd? that's a shame. I had so looked forward to meeting him. I am here, just watching. cool; so you are the resident troll? Yes, yes he is. Damn, you guys need a MUCH better quality troll. This one is DULL!!! Please tell me you have something anything more entertaining than ArtistMike and his sidekick the Unitard? |
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Glad that you don't want me to put you on the approved vendor list. Trust me I won't. };- |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:29:01 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed] wrote: Actually Buzzardnews Why for how come it don't show up in your path? :( |
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In article <BC9DF8A8.F2DC2%[Email Removed]>, "Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote: in article [Email Removed], Andrew - Supernews at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 6:49 PM: What is going on is very simple: we won't violate our privacy policies simply to "win" a debate in public. So you think you will "win"? hahahahaha. Yeah mike's right. |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:56:38 GMT, reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: In article <[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:22:15 GMT, reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: In article <BC9DBC4C.F2D00%[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 2:35 PM: In article <[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... Mike * Logo Design * Put some fun in your next logo! Site at: http://www.artistmike.com I've seen the site. it's not that impressive. You are not very bright are you. no. no I'm not. keep thinking that. No, that was not me, just Mikey frogging me to get to you. Ignore him he is no troll he is just a chew toy. Trolls usually have a sense of humor and are fun. ArtistMike is just a whiney little kid who got his hand caught in the cookie jar and is now lashing out. BTW filter on emails to separate ArtistMike's pathetic frogeries from the real posts. Me: [Email Removed] <- The real deal Frog Mikey: [Email Removed] <- The froggy deal Mikey is also: Combaticus AlwaysCorrect BLUEMIST Mike... Carol J and many more. It appears he is having a bit of a breakdown in the fastlane here. Watch him do a lame post edit in reply. He is so k00ky. 'Ratz oh, I'm following most of the socks he's wearing already; check out his message ID; you use forte agent, he's using xnews it looks like. thanks for the score card, though; it does help. fwiw, I have a few friends who are going to have a field day with the .jpg's on his site. Ain't it dah trooth. Love it when the newbies think they have a "PLAN" to discredit someone like Supernews. What is absolutely incredibly stoopud here is the people who use Supernews WANT supernews to filter nitwits like ArtistMike. So he is pissing into a gale. I have a feeling he will in the long run help Supernews business by proving how well they filter and destroy what little reputation he had on the Internet and Usenet. I in my own way am attempting to help Mike in his self-destruction. Cross post everything to groups that google archives. The really good ones go to alt.usenet.kooks. Frogging people is such a cool tactic and he does it so poorly. I just wish he were brighter, his one trick pony lames get so very dull. |
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In article <[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:04:57 -0400, Zimphire <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: In article <[Email Removed]>, reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> wrote: In article <BC9D913F.F2953%[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... darn. you guys mean your troll has been filtered by his NSP? UDP'd? that's a shame. I had so looked forward to meeting him. I am here, just watching. cool; so you are the resident troll? Yes, yes he is. Damn, you guys need a MUCH better quality troll. This one is DULL!!! Please tell me you have something anything more entertaining than ArtistMike and his sidekick the Unitard? it's almost like he's not a troll, but just an asshole spammer. have you tried to work him into a frenzy? |
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in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 7:34 PM: I don't give a rat's ass who posted them, where are the headers, and legit headers for comparison. Do your own work. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:13:29 -0700, "Mike..." <[Email Removed] wrote: They post just as many messages as I do in a day... and they have their link in each message. But it is not ok for me to do the same, because they don't like my "attitude" or they don't like the topics that I choose to post about, or they don't like getting crybabies writing to them about my "mean" messages. Tough. They are out of the loop now. The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself. |
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In article <BC9DC09E.F2D10%[Email Removed]>, Aratzio <[Email Removed]> wrote: in article [Email Removed], Aratzio at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 2:59 PM: He has to resort to nym shifts ... Poor baby. Cry some more... your pain is my joy. Sadist. |
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so why don't you shut up and move on you egocentric nutcase. |
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In article <BC9DC09E.F2D10%[Email Removed]>, Aratzio <[Email Removed]> wrote: in article [Email Removed], Aratzio at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 2:59 PM: He has to resort to nym shifts ... Poor baby. Cry some more... your pain is my joy. Sadist. |
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What is absolutely incredibly stoopud here is the people who use Supernews WANT supernews to filter nitwits like ArtistMike. |
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In article <BC9E00FE.F2DFD%[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 7:34 PM: I don't give a rat's ass who posted them, where are the headers, and legit headers for comparison. Do your own work. my own work; my own rules. you, are a fucking spammer, and a troll. you will burn in the hell I will make for you, or you will run out screaming. shall we play, you arrogant unwit? |
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in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 8:13 PM: Glad that you don't want me to put you on the approved vendor list. Trust me I won't. };- My opinions in newsgroups are not for sale. I don't care what you "had to offer" in the way of being on an approved "vender list". I have been willing to write as I wish in newsgroups for years, and am still willing to pay the price that silly people like you think I should pay. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:38:06 -0700, "Mike..." <[Email Removed] wrote: in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 8:13 PM: Glad that you don't want me to put you on the approved vendor list. Trust me I won't. };- My opinions in newsgroups are not for sale. I don't care what you "had to offer" in the way of being on an approved "vender list". |
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I have been willing to write as I wish in newsgroups for years, and am still willing to pay the price that silly people like you think I should pay. Sounds to me that is the reason why after all of these years you are still struggling. J.P. |
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Oh, by the way... I like all this discussion in public, and I like how it is being archived in google. Keep it up, Supernews. hahahaha. in article [Email Removed], Andrew - Supernews at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 6:49 PM: On 2004-04-10, Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid> wrote: Andrew - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote news:[Email Removed] I admit that, not being the abuse person here, I have no idea why the user in question was blocked in the first place. But it wasn't anything to do with the above post, which is dated some months after the original block. How can you say that when Jeremy says it does: Because Jeremy didn't say that. Jeremy from Supernews says he has VERIFIED these posts are not forged and that they speak for themselves. So he means Supernews has proof they were posted by Mike. He means nothing of the sort (perhaps he should have made this point clearer). We _WILL NOT COMMENT_ on the issue of which of our users made any specific post, or whether two or more posts were made by the same user, because that would be a violation of privacy. Naturally, this means that public discussion of abuse issues is rarely productive (as this thread demonstrates). He means they are related to the reason for blocking. No, that's simply your interpretation of what he meant. But you from Supernews say something different. What is going on at Supernews Abuse, Andrew?? What is going on is very simple: we won't violate our privacy policies simply to "win" a debate in public. If the "Artist Mike" poster wants his block on posting to be reviewed, then he can simply get his ISP to contact our abuse staff. Note: paying customers (that is: individual subscribers or corporate account holders themselves as opposed to their end-users) can contact abuse directly, but end-users of ISP outsource customers are expected to have their ISP contact us on their behalf. Neither individual subscribers nor outsource end-users ever get their posting privileges revoked lightly. But it should be obvious that the vast majority of people who _do_ get blocked will claim that they were in fact blocked falsely: either because they were genuinely innocent, or because they are intentionally spamming and therefore lying about it, or they are guilty of some form of abuse other than simple spamming and believem for whatever reason, that their conduct was justified. (As an example of such justification, see the assertion that's been made several times in this thread that simply being a paying customer confers some sort of right to use our service for promotional purposes - which is absolutely not the case.) |
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BTW oh king of the spelling lame, what's a vender? Ouch Mikey That had to of hurt. Do you want some Bactine for that? |
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And flaying himself in public. Not a pretty sight. I do like the "I will run my business into the ground on my terms and you cannot stop me" attitude. |
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The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself. |
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my own work; my own rules. you, are a fucking spammer, and a troll. you will burn in the hell I will make for you, or you will run out screaming. shall we play, you arrogant unwit? |
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in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 8:45 PM: my own work; my own rules. you, are a fucking spammer, and a troll. you will burn in the hell I will make for you, or you will run out screaming. shall we play, you arrogant unwit? Your silly threats are irrelevant. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:21:56 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed] wrote: BTW oh king of the spelling lame, what's a vender? Ouch Mikey That had to of hurt. Do you want some Bactine for that? |
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And flaying himself in public. Not a pretty sight. I do like the "I will run my business into the ground on my terms and you cannot stop me" attitude. Unfortunately it happens every day. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:31:05 -0700, [Email Removed] got double secret probation because: On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:21:56 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed] wrote: BTW oh king of the spelling lame, what's a vender? Ouch Mikey That had to of hurt. Do you want some Bactine for that? It is so sad when they play the lame cards and then get fed the deck. And flaying himself in public. Not a pretty sight. I do like the "I will run my business into the ground on my terms and you cannot stop me" attitude. Unfortunately it happens every day. My brother-in-laws brother is a Federal Bankruptcy judge down in your end of the state. He was telling some stories last Christmas about some of the people who end up in front of him. It is truly sad that some of these people are allowed out of their homes, let alone run businesses. Well it is actually corporations that end up in front of him but the people who run the corporations. WorldCom, Tyco, Adelphia are big names you hear all about. The small players who do that kind of stuff are a dime a dozen. But lucky for Mike he does not have any stockholders to sue his ass into bankruptcy for malfeasance. You imagine if Mikey was public corporation and he pulled this stunt. Shareholders suits would just be the beginning of his woes. 'Ratz -- A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz Accept No Substitute |
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I must admit that my spelling and use of the English language is not that good at the best of times. But did you note how little since the line you quoted makes Mike? LP. "AlwaysCorrect" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:BC9E18CC.F2E3C%[Email Removed]... in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 8:45 PM: my own work; my own rules. you, are a fucking spammer, and a troll. you will burn in the hell I will make for you, or you will run out screaming. shall we play, you arrogant unwit? Your silly threats are irrelevant. |
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in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 8:25 PM: The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself. Is that a problem for you? Nopers |
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There are a few people left that can make a buck or ten with their work, and still not sell their soul down the river like the rest of you. And before you think I am just another Mike personality looming on the net. Check the file headers unlike supernews, you will find that I am not him. Oh so many victims of the supernews power trips. Well who can we get blocked today? Hum let me see how about I use your headers to do some spamming? Or being that they will not even look at the headers, I will just use your email address and nick or something stupid like that. LP. |
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"Aratzio" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:[Email Removed]... On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:31:05 -0700, [Email Removed] got double secret probation because: On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:21:56 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed] wrote: BTW oh king of the spelling lame, what's a vender? Ouch Mikey That had to of hurt. Do you want some Bactine for that? It is so sad when they play the lame cards and then get fed the deck. And flaying himself in public. Not a pretty sight. I do like the "I will run my business into the ground on my terms and you cannot stop me" attitude. Unfortunately it happens every day. My brother-in-laws brother is a Federal Bankruptcy judge down in your end of the state. He was telling some stories last Christmas about some of the people who end up in front of him. It is truly sad that some of these people are allowed out of their homes, let alone run businesses. Well it is actually corporations that end up in front of him but the people who run the corporations. WorldCom, Tyco, Adelphia are big names you hear all about. The small players who do that kind of stuff are a dime a dozen. But lucky for Mike he does not have any stockholders to sue his ass into bankruptcy for malfeasance. You imagine if Mikey was public corporation and he pulled this stunt. Shareholders suits would just be the beginning of his woes. 'Ratz -- A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz Accept No Substitute |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:31:07 GMT, reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> wrote: In article <[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:29:01 -0700, BLUEMIST <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: I have used them and they suck. They will censor you if they don't like your messages, or if you post too much. They will even use fake messages as justification for their blocking of your real messages. All sourgrapes from ArtistMike who is filtered by Supernews for Spamming people. Avoid spammers like him. He has to resort to nym shifts to make it look like the Lurkers support him. please just keep in mind that I'm no sock. of course, I don't support anyone yet. give me a little while to sort through posts... I am a regular here and all of these froggeries are making me dizzy. I need a beer. Back in a few. };- J.P. |
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[Email Removed] says... "Mikey..." <[Email Removed]> wrote: They post just as many messages as I do in a day... and they have their link in each message. But it is not ok for me to do the same, because they don't like my "attitude" or they don't like the topics that I choose to post about, or they don't like getting crybabies writing to them about my "mean" messages. Tough. They are out of the loop now. The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself. oh, no; I want him in the loop. his own loop. making a tight downward spiral. |
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reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> wrote: [Email Removed] says... "Mikey..." <[Email Removed]> wrote: They post just as many messages as I do in a day... and they have their link in each message. But it is not ok for me to do the same, because they don't like my "attitude" or they don't like the topics that I choose to post about, or they don't like getting crybabies writing to them about my "mean" messages. Tough. They are out of the loop now. The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself. oh, no; I want him in the loop. his own loop. making a tight downward spiral. In ever-decreasing circles, before disappearing in a puff of blue smoke. |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:15:03 -0400, Uni <[Email Removed] wrote: I've seen many Supernews subscribers that post a URL to a product and/or service. Mike, has also done this. However, Mike does, in his own cute way, ruffle a few feathers in usenet. I assume, someone complained to Supernews about Mike, and Supernews took immediate steps to put a stop to Mike. And, how many real spammers (who never say a word) will argue with a NSP in this very group? Case closed. Uni A spammer is a spammer, get over it. J.P. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:32:39 -0700, AlwaysCorrect <[Email Removed]> wrote: in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 8:25 PM: The way you are going, you will soon be out of the loop yourself. Is that a problem for you? Nopers. |
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in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 10:14 PM: On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:15:03 -0400, Uni <[Email Removed] wrote: I've seen many Supernews subscribers that post a URL to a product and/or service. Mike, has also done this. However, Mike does, in his own cute way, ruffle a few feathers in usenet. I assume, someone complained to Supernews about Mike, and Supernews took immediate steps to put a stop to Mike. And, how many real spammers (who never say a word) will argue with a NSP in this very group? Case closed. Uni A spammer is a spammer, get over it. J.P. A bigot and a wanna-be censor are a bigot and a wanna-be censor, get over it. PKB |
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I've seen many Supernews subscribers that post a URL to a product and/or service. Mike, has also done this. However, Mike does, in his own cute way, ruffle a few feathers in usenet. I assume, someone complained to Supernews about Mike, and Supernews took immediate steps to put a stop to Mike. And, how many real spammers (who never say a word) will argue with a NSP in this very group? Case closed. Uni |
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AlwaysCorrect wrote: in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 10:14 PM: On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:15:03 -0400, Uni <[Email Removed] wrote: I've seen many Supernews subscribers that post a URL to a product and/or service. Mike, has also done this. However, Mike does, in his own cute way, ruffle a few feathers in usenet. I assume, someone complained to Supernews about Mike, and Supernews took immediate steps to put a stop to Mike. And, how many real spammers (who never say a word) will argue with a NSP in this very group? Case closed. Uni A spammer is a spammer, get over it. J.P. A bigot and a wanna-be censor are a bigot and a wanna-be censor, get over it. Let's see. JP is friends with Mike @ Octanews. Mike @ Octanews is friends with Supernews..... yada, yada, yada. One little world, here. :-D Uni |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:48:41 -0400, Uni <[Email Removed] wrote: Let's see. JP is friends with Mike @ Octanews. Mike @ Octanews is friends with Supernews..... yada, yada, yada. One little world, here. :-D Uni Yepers We are all out to get you. A conspiracy per say. Just for you and your sock puppets. Right Mike? };- J.P. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:30:15 -0700, AlwaysCorrect <[Email Removed]> wrote: in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 10:14 PM: On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:15:03 -0400, Uni <[Email Removed] wrote: I've seen many Supernews subscribers that post a URL to a product and/or service. Mike, has also done this. However, Mike does, in his own cute way, ruffle a few feathers in usenet. I assume, someone complained to Supernews about Mike, and Supernews took immediate steps to put a stop to Mike. And, how many real spammers (who never say a word) will argue with a NSP in this very group? Case closed. Uni A spammer is a spammer, get over it. J.P. A bigot and a wanna-be censor are a bigot and a wanna-be censor, get over it. PKB |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:15:03 -0400, Uni wrote: I've seen many Supernews subscribers that post a URL to a product and/or service. Mike, has also done this. However, Mike does, in his own cute way, ruffle a few feathers in usenet. I assume, someone complained to Supernews about Mike, and Supernews took immediate steps to put a stop to Mike. And, how many real spammers (who never say a word) will argue with a NSP in this very group? Case closed. Uni Yes... |
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I'm kinda hoping the dumb bastard forges me - then he can lose another account. |
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in article [Email Removed], FakeMike... at [Email Removed]0m wrote on 04/10/2004 10:54 PM: On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:15:03 -0400, Uni wrote: I've seen many Supernews subscribers that post a URL to a product and/or service. Mike, has also done this. However, Mike does, in his own cute way, ruffle a few feathers in usenet. I assume, someone complained to Supernews about Mike, and Supernews took immediate steps to put a stop to Mike. And, how many real spammers (who never say a word) will argue with a NSP in this very group? Case closed. Uni Yes... Glad you agree FakeMike. |
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Hey try this, frog Jeremy or Andrew they love that kind of stuff. |
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in article [email protected], John Henry at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 10:11 PM: I'm kinda hoping the dumb bastard forges me - then he can lose another account. How sweet of you to share you little hopes and desires. Move on. |
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in article [Email Removed], Aratzio at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/10/2004 11:37 PM: Hey try this, frog Jeremy or Andrew they love that kind of stuff. Your fantasies are not everyone's. Do your own work. |