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| "DevilsPGD" <[Email Removed]> wrote Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> did ramble: This is the first time I've ever seen a case where post-editing rose to the level where I'd consider it an ongoing abuse problem. We had to figure out how to handle it. I'm not sure if that's a good thing (that it doesn't happen much) or a bad thing (That Uni has actually managed to "create" a new class of abuse) I've pretty much ignored it until today, but given that he was just warned, and post/quote edited me, I decided to file one. Personally, I think a suspension of posting access would be appropriate. The problem is that Uni seems to be wearing a teflon coated suit so that no clues can stick to him. He ain't saying "sorry, I won't do that again." |
Nah, he's obviously deliberately provoking SN so that they will TOS
him and he and all his socks can bitch about it.
--
Martin S.
Black Dragon wrote -
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| He shouldn't have to to apologize for anything. Supernews ought to advise the sniveling whiners complaining about post editing to simply use their kill filters. |
Are you really as fucking stupid as that last paragraph makes you
sound?
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| If you don't like what somebody's psoting, simply don't read it. Difficult concept for some people to grasp, eh? |
Yup - I think you are.
boooo hoooooo
"Danhiel - Supernews Admin" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Danhiel - Supernews Admin" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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| Black Dragon <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:[Email Removed]: [snip] He shouldn't have to to apologize for anything. Supernews ought to advise the sniveling whiners complaining about post editing to simply use their kill filters. That doesn't keep these deliberate misquoting/misattributing out of Google Groups or other archives or keep anyone else from reading them. In fact, your suggestion does not a thing to make Uni's post editing less harmful. If someone were looking into a prospective employee and popped that person's email address into a search on Google Groups, they would get the posts where that address appears in the body (in the attrib line). If they get one where Uni has altered what was said in a damaging way they are unlikely to think "Gosh, that's just some joker having fun, let's read the whole thread and pay close attention to ensure we don't skip what we assume we already read". By putting words into their mouth, Uni is potentially damaging someone's reputation. "Just use a killfile" has it's place, and that is what we suggest in our abuse@ autoresponse to most everything short of actual Usenet abuse. We don't say "just use a killfile" to reports of spam, for instance, nor for flooding, forgery, etc. Post editing is abusive, especially when done on a large scale, and shares many traits in common with forgery IMO as far as it's potential effects go. If you don't like what somebody's psoting, simply don't read it. Difficult concept for some people to grasp, eh? We agree, but Uni seems to think if he doesn't like the post, he should just change it... This isn't about people not liking to read Uni's edited posts. The offended party is not so much the one reading the post but the person who made the post which was edited. Since they lack our reverse killfile technology, they can't exactly keep Uni from seeing their posts and thus not altering what they said. Danhiel -- Danhiel Baker [Email Removed] Chief News Admin, Supernews http://www.supernews.net |
"Danhiel - Supernews Admin" <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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| Black Dragon <[Email Removed]> wrote: [snip] He shouldn't have to to apologize for anything. Supernews ought to advise the sniveling whiners complaining about post editing to simply use their kill filters. That doesn't keep these deliberate misquoting/misattributing out of Google Groups or other archives or keep anyone else from reading them. In fact, your suggestion does not a thing to make Uni's post editing less harmful. If someone were looking into a prospective employee and popped that person's email address into a search on Google Groups, they would get the posts where that address appears in the body (in the attrib line). If they get one where Uni has altered what was said in a damaging way they are unlikely to think "Gosh, that's just some joker having fun, let's read the whole thread and pay close attention to ensure we don't skip what we assume we already read". By putting words into their mouth, Uni is potentially damaging someone's reputation. "Just use a killfile" has it's place, and that is what we suggest in our abuse@ autoresponse to most everything short of actual Usenet abuse. We don't say "just use a killfile" to reports of spam, for instance, nor for flooding, forgery, etc. Post editing is abusive, especially when done on a large scale, and shares many traits in common with forgery IMO as far as it's potential effects go. If you don't like what somebody's psoting, simply don't read it. Difficult concept for some people to grasp, eh? We agree, but Uni seems to think if he doesn't like the post, he should just change it... This isn't about people not liking to read Uni's edited posts. The offended party is not so much the one reading the post but the person who made the post which was edited. Since they lack our reverse killfile technology, they can't exactly keep Uni from seeing their posts and thus not altering what they said. Danhiel |
So what are you waiting for?
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Martin S.
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| "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> wrote: The problem is that Uni seems to be wearing a teflon coated suit so that no clues can stick to him. He ain't saying "sorry, I won't do that again." Nah, he's obviously deliberately provoking SN so that they will TOS him and he and all his socks can bitch about it. |
I agree with this post.
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in article [Email Removed], Aratzio at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:08 PM:
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:08 PM:
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| On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:56:51 -0700, MartinS <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: in article [email protected], Danhiel - Supernews Admin at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 12:53 PM: Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:[Email Removed]: [snip] Danhiel, just who do think you are to send me a warning of "Usenet" abuse, when it only pertains to supernews.* groups? Uni Grasping at straws now, aren't you? In case you've forgotten, you don't limit your post editing to supernews.*. You obviously got Mr Abuse Desk's little love note, and one presumes read it. The distinction is clearly made there. This really DOES have to be spelled out for you, doesn't it. It is handy that you posted that warning, really, as it makes your reply here seem all the more desperate. Do have a _wonderful_ day! Danhiel Your threats and attempts at censorship out in the open. I hope everyone gets to see it. Please do continue! |
I am sure people like Supernews will continue to censor people until they
come for you also.
hahahahaha.
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 18:22:44 -0400, "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski"
<[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because:
<[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because:
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| "MartinS" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:40c78b00$0$88930$[Email Removed] "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> wrote: The problem is that Uni seems to be wearing a teflon coated suit so that no clues can stick to him. He ain't saying "sorry, I won't do that again." Nah, he's obviously deliberately provoking SN so that they will TOS him and he and all his socks can bitch about it. I agree with this post. I am in concurrance with the postion stated. |
in article [Email Removed], Black Dragon
at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 2:43 PM:
at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 2:43 PM:
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| rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski wrote: The problem is that Uni seems to be wearing a teflon coated suit so that no clues can stick to him. He ain't saying "sorry, I won't do that again." He shouldn't have to to apologize for anything. Supernews ought to advise the sniveling whiners complaining about post editing to simply use their kill filters. If you don't like what somebody's psoting, simply don't read it. Difficult concept for some people to grasp, eh? |
Exactly right. But instead Supernews sticks their big censoring nose into
the mix and makes threats to "Uni" about what he chooses to post.
Aratzio wrote -
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| I am in concurrance with the postion stated. |
You been to Court again ?
in article [email protected], Danhiel - Supernews Admin
at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:12 PM:
at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:12 PM:
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| Black Dragon <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:[Email Removed]: [snip] He shouldn't have to to apologize for anything. Supernews ought to advise the sniveling whiners complaining about post editing to simply use their kill filters. That doesn't keep these deliberate misquoting/misattributing out of Google Groups or other archives or keep anyone else from reading them. In fact, your suggestion does not a thing to make Uni's post editing less harmful. |
Not your job to make "Uni" -- less "harmful". You are overstepping your
responsibilities.
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| If someone were looking into a prospective employee and popped that person's email address into a search on Google Groups, they would get the posts where that address appears in the body (in the attrib line). If they get one where Uni has altered what was said in a damaging way they are unlikely to think "Gosh, that's just some joker having fun, let's read the whole thread and pay close attention to ensure we don't skip what we assume we already read". By putting words into their mouth, Uni is potentially damaging someone's reputation. |
Not your job to fix that. Step back and control yourself.
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| Post editing is abusive... |
Only in your little mind.
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| If you don't like what somebody's psoting, simply don't read it. Difficult concept for some people to grasp, eh? We agree, but Uni seems to think if he doesn't like the post, he should just change it... |
What you imagine "Uni" thinks is amusing, but not a basis for a rational
decisions on what to do in this situation.
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This isn't about people not liking to read Uni's edited posts. The offended party is not so much the one reading the post but the person who made the post which was edited. |
Not your job to step in and "protect" them from "Uni".
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:14:20 -0400, MartinS <[Email Removed]> got double
secret probation because:
secret probation because:
| QUOTE |
| "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> wrote: "DevilsPGD" <[Email Removed]> wrote Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> did ramble: This is the first time I've ever seen a case where post-editing rose to the level where I'd consider it an ongoing abuse problem. We had to figure out how to handle it. I'm not sure if that's a good thing (that it doesn't happen much) or a bad thing (That Uni has actually managed to "create" a new class of abuse) I've pretty much ignored it until today, but given that he was just warned, and post/quote edited me, I decided to file one. Personally, I think a suspension of posting access would be appropriate. The problem is that Uni seems to be wearing a teflon coated suit so that no clues can stick to him. He ain't saying "sorry, I won't do that again." Nah, he's obviously deliberately provoking SN so that they will TOS him and he and all his socks can bitch about it. |
I shall now place the orb or prediction to my forehead.
Yes, Yes, I see it...
More k00k awards for the 'Tard in the future. More pathetic whining by
all the AM Astraweb froggies and forgeries. Killfiles expand.
Oh wait there's more:
Lots and lots of laughing at the 'Tard/AM by just about every person
on the usenet. Including Richard Bullis.
'Ratz
in article [Email Removed], Far Canal at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:19 PM:
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:19 PM:
| QUOTE |
| Black Dragon wrote - He shouldn't have to to apologize for anything. Supernews ought to advise the sniveling whiners complaining about post editing to simply use their kill filters. Are you really as fucking stupid as that last paragraph makes you sound? If you don't like what somebody's psoting, simply don't read it. Difficult concept for some people to grasp, eh? Yup - I think you are. |
Too bad everyone does not think like you, huh.
hahahahaha.
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
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| [Email Removed] wrote: Little news for you Supernews... editing quoted text is done all the time. Post-editing, in a way that misrepresents what the person said, is something I consider abuse, especially when done constantly as in this case. |
Funny thing, that wasn't what you said not long ago, when you made it
clear that you considered it a personal matter and just innocent
"trolling", or so you posted here, putting the onus on all the other
customers including those he re-edited with the intent to defame rather
than merely "mis-represent".
-- DE
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Just because you can't find any real reason to censor UNI you are now attempting to make up rules so that you can censor him. If we wanted to censor him, we wouldn't need a reason. |
DE wrote -
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| Post-editing, in a way that misrepresents what the person said, is something I consider abuse, especially when done constantly as in this case. Funny thing, that wasn't what you said not long ago, when you made it clear that you considered it a personal matter and just innocent "trolling", or so you posted here, putting the onus on all the other customers including those he re-edited with the intent to defame rather than merely "mis-represent". |
Funny what an overloaded abuse inbox can do.
In message <<[Email Removed]>> Aratzio
<[Email Removed]> did ramble:
<[Email Removed]> did ramble:
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| AM forgery, please to check headers during 'Tard meltdown. |
Bah... Yeah, point taken.
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They don't see each other. They only see what they
wanna see. They don't know they're dumb.
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 23:33:57 +0100, Far Canal <[Email Removed]> got
double secret probation because:
double secret probation because:
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| Aratzio wrote - I am in concurrance with the postion stated. You been to Court again ? |
I was framed! It was the big kids and they ran away. Really your honor
it was all an accident. He attacked my fist with his face......
'Ratz
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Accept No Substitute
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 23:45:30 +0100, Far Canal <[Email Removed]> got
double secret probation because:
double secret probation because:
| QUOTE |
| DE wrote - Post-editing, in a way that misrepresents what the person said, is something I consider abuse, especially when done constantly as in this case. Funny thing, that wasn't what you said not long ago, when you made it clear that you considered it a personal matter and just innocent "trolling", or so you posted here, putting the onus on all the other customers including those he re-edited with the intent to defame rather than merely "mis-represent". Funny what an overloaded abuse inbox can do. |
Wellllll,
Imagine DE incensed enough to write to the abuse dept. Now I am not
saying DE can be a bit overly verbose (oh wait that is exactly what I
am saying) but one complaint from her could overload the inbox.
'Ratz
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Accept No Substitute
in article BtMxc.6285512$[Email Removed], DevilsPGD at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:49 PM:
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:49 PM:
| QUOTE |
| In message <<[Email Removed]>> Aratzio <[Email Removed]> did ramble: AM forgery, please to check headers during 'Tard meltdown. Bah... Yeah, point taken. |
hahahahahahaha.
MartinS wrote:
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| in article [email protected], Danhiel - Supernews Admin at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 12:36 PM: Deliberately changing what someone wrote and quoting it in a manner that it is either directly attributed to them or left open to leave the impression it was written by a dumbass sure seems to be walking the line of fun and prankism depending on what you said and whether it caused that person to laugh or fart. I'm a clown lawyer (that's for certain), so from the abuse desk POV I seem to fit well enough. That clear it up for you? The TOS will be getting a make-over soon, as soon as I learn to spell. But we don't need anything specifically for your actions at this point. Danhiel - Clown Lawyer - King of Usenet! Well, that sure makes it clear who is the king of Usenet! |
Indeed!
:-)
Danhiel - Clown Lawyer & Chief Bottle Washer of Usenet!
:-)
Uni
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DE <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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| Funny thing, that wasn't what you said not long ago, when you made it clear that you considered it a personal matter and just innocent "trolling", or so you posted here, putting the onus on all the other customers including those he re-edited with the intent to defame rather than merely "mis-represent". |
I'm not sure exactly what it was that I said, but I am very tolerant of
trolls, for several reasons, not the least of which is that there is
nothing I can do to stop Uni from doing what he's doing.
--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]
in article [email protected], Danhiel - Supernews Admin
at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:41 PM:
at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:41 PM:
| QUOTE |
| "Kuifmans" <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:[Email Removed]: [snip] Too bad this isn't like a forum where you could put a lock on it. Good idea, now we can :) This thread has now been locked in this group. Follow-ups set. Danhiel |
Supernews now is attempting to lock messages into certain newsgroups.
hahahahahaha.
They don't want their activities spreading around the newsgroups.
hahahahaha.
MartinS wrote:
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| in article [email protected], Danhiel - Supernews Admin at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 3:41 PM: "Kuifmans" <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:[Email Removed]: [snip] Too bad this isn't like a forum where you could put a lock on it. Good idea, now we can :) This thread has now been locked in this group. Follow-ups set. Danhiel Supernews now is attempting to lock messages into certain newsgroups. hahahahahaha. They don't want their activities spreading around the newsgroups. |
We knew that all along.
:-)
Seems they are concerned how other people feel (re: Google) than their
own customers!
:-)
Uni
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hahahahaha. |
Black Dragon wrote:
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| rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski wrote: The problem is that Uni seems to be wearing a teflon coated suit so that no clues can stick to him. He ain't saying "sorry, I won't do that again." He shouldn't have to to apologize for anything. Supernews ought to advise the sniveling whiners complaining about post editing to simply use their kill filters. If you don't like what somebody's psoting, simply don't read it. Difficult concept for some people to grasp, eh? |
Look, Danhiel is concerned about archives, which don't exist for
supernews.general.
:-)
Well, duh.
:-)
Uni
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 17:41:18 +0100, "Steve Leyland"
<[Email Removed]> had a scratch and
wrote:
<[Email Removed]> had a scratch and
wrote:
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| [Email Removed] wrote: : On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 19:51:33 GMT, DevilsPGD : <[Email Removed]> wrote: : :: Feel free to contact me if you'd like a user complaint about him -- :: I'm both a corporate customer and an indi customer of Supernews, as :: well as a user of a couple of newsgroups where Uni posts. :: :: He is the first person in reason memory I've actually killfiled due :: to post editing, normally I only use killfiles to handle flooding :: and I just have flagged posts as read from people I don't want to :: hear from. :: :: I switch my filters on and off occasionally to see if I'm missing :: anything of value, and Uni has not disappointed me, he's going right :: back on the list. :: :: I don't normally file complaints :: |
Me thinks you doth protest too much, bitch.
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| ::about much of anything anymore, but :: post editing is one of a few offenses where I might. : : I would have to second that opinion. I am getting awful tired of all : of Uni and his puppets post editing of mine and others posts. I have : complained to abuse@supernews but have not gotten any results. Is : anyone from Supernews listening? I sincerely hope they would have more sense than to TOS a user merely for lame post-editing, even when said user is a k00k such as Uni. -nobody- likes a netKKKop. : : J.P. |
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48073 wrote:
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| I wouldn't expect anything else. That's your strength. I'm just curious about your opinion M. Don't you think censorship is the axe at the tree of free speach? 48073. |
ROFLMAO!!
Drew
in article [Email Removed], 48073 at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 2:49 PM:
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/09/2004 2:49 PM:
| QUOTE |
| "..`.." <[Email Removed]> wrote: I will continue to edit quoted material as I see fit. I wouldn't expect anything else. That's your strength. I'm just curious about your opinion M. Don't you think censorship is the axe at the tree of free speach? |
Editing quoted text is not censorship. It is trolling, and trolling is a
sport.
The original message is there to be seen if someone wants to go look for it.
Otherwise all the crying about post editing is just so much bellyaching
about nothing.
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:25:49 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed]>
wrote:
wrote:
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| On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 18:22:44 -0400, "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: "MartinS" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:40c78b00$0$88930$[Email Removed] "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> wrote: The problem is that Uni seems to be wearing a teflon coated suit so that no clues can stick to him. He ain't saying "sorry, I won't do that again." Nah, he's obviously deliberately provoking SN so that they will TOS him and he and all his socks can bitch about it. I agree with this post. I am in concurrance with the postion stated. |
I just say Do it!
J.P.
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:49:13 -0700, [Email Removed] got double secret
probation because:
probation because:
| QUOTE |
| On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:25:49 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed] wrote: On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 18:22:44 -0400, "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: "MartinS" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:40c78b00$0$88930$[Email Removed] "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> wrote: The problem is that Uni seems to be wearing a teflon coated suit so that no clues can stick to him. He ain't saying "sorry, I won't do that again." Nah, he's obviously deliberately provoking SN so that they will TOS him and he and all his socks can bitch about it. I agree with this post. I am in concurrance with the postion stated. I just say Do it! J.P. |
They won't and you know it, was all just a troll to shake the 'Tards
tree a little. But the effect was a lot of fun to watch even with the
killfilters in place. Only downside is the post troll whine fest that
the 'Tard will throw.
'Ratz
--
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Accept No Substitute
Aratzio wrote -
| QUOTE |
| They won't and you know it, was all just a troll to shake the 'Tards tree a little. But the effect was a lot of fun to watch even with the killfilters in place. Only downside is the post troll whine fest that the 'Tard will throw. |
And the turd continues to *PAY* for Usenet access.
Unlike some
*G*
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 04:04:49 +0100, Far Canal <[Email Removed]> got
double secret probation because:
double secret probation because:
| QUOTE |
| Aratzio wrote - They won't and you know it, was all just a troll to shake the 'Tards tree a little. But the effect was a lot of fun to watch even with the killfilters in place. Only downside is the post troll whine fest that the 'Tard will throw. And the turd continues to *PAY* for Usenet access. Unlike some *G* |
Hadn't everyone better retire to the sooper sekrit newsgroup used only
to talk about the 'Tard? Then everyone can make fun of it some more
and it won't be able to read any of it.
'Ratz
--
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Accept No Substitute
| QUOTE |
| Supernews Abuse Desk wrote: User XXXXXXXXXX aka "Uni", Any further threats of censorship by supernews will cause us to lose your business then and there I am sure. Any further bullying and threats anywhere by us would cause anyone to lose trust in us completely. You have been publically warned, and you are well aware of our behaviour, we are well known for our actions. Censoring people is deliberate newsgroup disruption, and could be deemed by some to be defamation, especially sense we don't have valid reason for censoring you. Don't bother replying unless it is to say that you understand and will agree to our censorship. You are considered warned as of the time this mail is sent, not when/if you reply or read it. Supernews Abuse Desk |
Well, that makes it pretty clear that you are a bunch of censoring idiots.
I don't know why anyone would want to do business with you.
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:14:09 -0700, MartinS <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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| Well, that makes it pretty clear that you are a bunch of censoring idiots. I don't know why anyone would want to do business with you. I for one would! |
J.P.
[Email Removed] wrote:
| QUOTE |
| On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:14:09 -0700, MartinS <[Email Removed]> wrote: Well, that makes it pretty clear that you are a bunch of censoring idiots. I don't know why anyone would want to do business with you. I for one would! |
Maybe they could interest you in Paint Shop Pro, while you're here. It's
made just for you slow folks.
:-)
Uni
| QUOTE |
J.P. |
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:11:17 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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| On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 04:04:49 +0100, Far Canal <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: Aratzio wrote - They won't and you know it, was all just a troll to shake the 'Tards tree a little. But the effect was a lot of fun to watch even with the killfilters in place. Only downside is the post troll whine fest that the 'Tard will throw. And the turd continues to *PAY* for Usenet access. Unlike some *G* Hadn't everyone better retire to the sooper sekrit newsgroup used only to talk about the 'Tard? |
The real 'Tards' are the people endlessly ranting about the 'Tard'.
Any of you morons ever use a killfile?
All this whining is getting tiresome.
You all remind me of my exwife.
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 03:55:20 GMT, [Email Removed] got double
secret probation because:
secret probation because:
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| On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:11:17 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed]> wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 04:04:49 +0100, Far Canal <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: Aratzio wrote - They won't and you know it, was all just a troll to shake the 'Tards tree a little. But the effect was a lot of fun to watch even with the killfilters in place. Only downside is the post troll whine fest that the 'Tard will throw. And the turd continues to *PAY* for Usenet access. Unlike some *G* Hadn't everyone better retire to the sooper sekrit newsgroup used only to talk about the 'Tard? The real 'Tards' are the people endlessly ranting about the 'Tard'. Any of you morons ever use a killfile? All this whining is getting tiresome. You all remind me of my exwife. |
Well there is some irony for you.
Ever hear of a killfile, moron?
Ever hear of not reading every post, moron?
Don't you just love a moron that whines about other people not using
killfiles. It always make them look so...lame.
Your ex-wife sounds like a smart women, she got rid of a moron.
I bet you think irony is that thing to make your clothes smoother.
'Ratz
[Email Removed] [Email Removed] 09 Jun 2004 wrote in
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| On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:11:17 -0700, Aratzio <[Email Removed] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 04:04:49 +0100, Far Canal <[Email Removed]> got double secret probation because: Aratzio wrote - They won't and you know it, was all just a troll to shake the 'Tards tree a little. But the effect was a lot of fun to watch even with the killfilters in place. Only downside is the post troll whine fest that the 'Tard will throw. And the turd continues to *PAY* for Usenet access. Unlike some *G* Hadn't everyone better retire to the sooper sekrit newsgroup used only to talk about the 'Tard? The real 'Tards' are the people endlessly ranting about the 'Tard'. Any of you morons ever use a killfile? All this whining is getting tiresome. You all remind me of my exwife. |
:-)
Uni
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Far Canal <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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| Aratzio wrote - They won't and you know it, was all just a troll to shake the 'Tards tree a little. But the effect was a lot of fun to watch even with the killfilters in place. Only downside is the post troll whine fest that the 'Tard will throw. And the turd continues to *PAY* for Usenet access. Unlike some *G* |
LOL! Right!
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Martin S.
Post Editing ... A CRIME?So let me see if I get this straight, since the situation has been thrust upon this group.
Mike Christy is being chastised by Supernews, who is not his news service provider, for editing people's words when replying to their posts. They have decided that this makes Mike's posts abusive and that they don't want them on their server, their private property.
Mike, in turn, is crying "censorship!" over them exercising this discretion, while ignoring that the opinions he posts about Supernew's "censorship" are like people's opinions posted about him, i.e. in his terms they are, "irrelevant."
Mike is posting these threads over here in ADG thinking that this will give Supernews bad publicity, so that people will not want to do business with Supernews, while ignoring that at least some people who know Mike's posts will applaud this as a good decision, and that he may be having the opposite of his intended effect.
Is that about it? Have I misunderstood anything. If not, you may now return you to the name-calling.
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Fred Doyle
www.leafpublishing.com
Mike Christy is being chastised by Supernews, who is not his news service provider, for editing people's words when replying to their posts. They have decided that this makes Mike's posts abusive and that they don't want them on their server, their private property.
Mike, in turn, is crying "censorship!" over them exercising this discretion, while ignoring that the opinions he posts about Supernew's "censorship" are like people's opinions posted about him, i.e. in his terms they are, "irrelevant."
Mike is posting these threads over here in ADG thinking that this will give Supernews bad publicity, so that people will not want to do business with Supernews, while ignoring that at least some people who know Mike's posts will applaud this as a good decision, and that he may be having the opposite of his intended effect.
Is that about it? Have I misunderstood anything. If not, you may now return you to the name-calling.
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Fred Doyle
www.leafpublishing.com
Far Canal wrote:
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| Black Dragon wrote - |
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| He shouldn't have to to apologize for anything. Supernews ought to advise the sniveling whiners complaining about post editing to simply use their kill filters. Are you really as fucking stupid as that last paragraph makes you sound? If you don't like what somebody's psoting, simply don't read it. Difficult concept for some people to grasp, eh? |
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| Yup - I think you are. |
So people who don't have the same point of view as fuckchops like
yourself are "stupid"?
What a tosser. LOL!
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Black Dragon wrote -
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| So people who don't have the same point of view as fuckchops like yourself are "stupid"? What a tosser. LOL! |
I won't lower myself to reply to that crap.
"...." <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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| Editing quoted text is not censorship. It is trolling, and trolling is a sport. |
It's like a debate where the opponents words are translated into
Swahili.
It also reminds me of the Entartete Kunst- and the McArthy- trials.
They had some more "funny" things at hand back in the old days. While
"interviewing" an artist who believed he could express his opinion.
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| The original message is there to be seen if someone wants to go look for it. |
That was also true back in the '30s and '50s. But no one dared to do
so for they could get killed when someone found out.
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| Otherwise all the crying about post editing is just so much bellyaching about nothing. |
Anyone can write anything in an unmoderated newsgroup.
That's what democracy is for.
But free speech is not an natural right. People have given their lives
in their fight for free speech.
Don't mess it up. Comfort and protect it.
48073.
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 23:45:31 -0400, Uni <[Email Removed]>
wrote:
wrote:
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| Maybe they could interest you in Paint Shop Pro, while you're here. It's made just for you slow folks. :-) Uni |
No need as I already own just about every Adobe product made. You
forget I work in the Graphics field.
J.P.
In alt.binaries.news-server-comparison Fred Doyle <[Email Removed]> wrote:
: Mike Christy is being chastised by Supernews
[snipper]
Are you saying that Mike Christy is Uni?
Followups set...
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Mike Horwath/Dude
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: Mike Christy is being chastised by Supernews
[snipper]
Are you saying that Mike Christy is Uni?
Followups set...
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Mike Horwath/Dude
[Email Removed]
in article oRXxc.67288$[Email Removed], Fred Doyle at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 4:45 AM:
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 4:45 AM:
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| Post Editing ... A CRIME?So let me see if I get this straight, since the situation has been thrust upon this group. Mike Christy is being chastised by Supernews... |
"Mike Christy" was not chastised by Supernews. "Uni" was. "Mike Christy"
had his posting ability blocked by Supernews. "Uni" is about to have the
same thing done to him. Both people wrote as they wished in newsgroups and
both people are being censored by Supernews.
You are next.
in article [Email Removed], Black Dragon
at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 4:53 AM:
at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 4:53 AM:
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| Rene wrote: That said, while I don't necessary like the decision or opinion, it is the owners right to restrict access to their service as they see fit. I'm not denying that at all. Their service, their rules. That's the way it should be. Note that I'm not a Supernews customer. And thanks to policies like this (TOS for psot editing), I never will be either. |
That is as it should be. The free exchange of info about Supernews so that
people can make up their own minds if they want to use such a service.
Nothing more, nothing less.
in article [Email Removed], Far Canal at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 5:38 AM:
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 5:38 AM:
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| Black Dragon wrote - So people who don't have the same point of view as fuckchops like yourself are "stupid"? What a tosser. LOL! I won't lower myself to reply to that crap. |
So why did you?
in article 40c877c3$0$93068$[Email Removed], Mike
Horwath at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 8:01 AM:
Horwath at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 8:01 AM:
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| In alt.binaries.news-server-comparison Fred Doyle <[Email Removed] wrote: : Mike Christy is being chastised by Supernews [snipper] Are you saying that Mike Christy is Uni? |
There are many goofballs that think that. They are wrong, but that does not
stop them.
in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at [Email Removed]
wrote on 06/10/2004 6:41 AM:
wrote on 06/10/2004 6:41 AM:
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| On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 23:45:31 -0400, Uni <[Email Removed] wrote: Maybe they could interest you in Paint Shop Pro, while you're here. It's made just for you slow folks. :-) Uni No need as I already own just about every product made. You forget I work in the Porno field. J.P. |
Really? How nice for you.
"Roy Peterson" <RoyPeterson@RoyPeterson> wrote
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"Mike Christy" was not chastised by Supernews. "Uni" was. "Mike Christy" had his posting ability blocked by Supernews. "Uni" is about to have the same thing done to him. |
Ok, got it. Thanks for the clarification. Its not easy trying to follow a
thread that is inserted in a newsgroup half-way into it.
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| Both people wrote as they wished in newsgroups and both people are being censored by Supernews. |
ok.
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| You are next. |
Oh no! Thanks for the warning.
Fred Doyle
in article [Email Removed], 48073 at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 6:04 AM:
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 6:04 AM:
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| "...." <[Email Removed]> wrote: Editing quoted text is not censorship. It is trolling, and trolling is a sport. It's like a debate where the opponents words are translated into Swahili. It also reminds me of the Entartete Kunst- and the McArthy- trials. They had some more "funny" things at hand back in the old days. While "interviewing" an artist who believed he could express his opinion. The original message is there to be seen if someone wants to go look for it. That was also true back in the '30s and '50s. But no one dared to do so for they could get killed when someone found out. Otherwise all the crying about post editing is just so much bellyaching about nothing. Anyone can write anything in an unmoderated newsgroup. That's what democracy is for. But free speech is not an natural right. People have given their lives in their fight for free speech. Don't mess it up. Comfort and protect it. 48073. |
Free Speech as to be exercised or it gets flabby. If people can't write as
they really think and feel then Free Speech is not worth much, now is it.
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