Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 06:58 PM
in article 407aea6a$0$17442$[Email Removed], DE at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 12:16 PM:
QUOTE |
I wonder why someone who chooses to behave the way Mike does would choose providers that have rules against it. Doesn't understand how contracts work, maybe?
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I was not part of the contract making process. My ISP signed up with
Supernews and I had nothing to do with it.
Care to try again to blame me?
":^)
Supernews was contrated to supply access to newsgroups by my ISP, that is
all... now they have taken upon themselves to censor and block people after
the fact.
--
Mike
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Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 07:02 PM
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 12:08 PM:
QUOTE |
Ed <[Email Removed]> wrote:
I wonder if all of the references to supernews in here for the past week have had a positive affect on sending news subscribers to supernews?
I was hoping you might be right, because that would be fun to laugh about. But I just checked, and there's no change whatsoever in our signup or cancellation rate, pretty much as expected. Oh well.
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Then there is no harm in what I am doing and all the Supernews cheerleaders
should not cry so much.
":^)
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Poik
Apr 12 2004, 07:04 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in
news:BCA03F23.F37F6%[Email Removed]:
QUOTE |
in article 407ace79$0$13919$[Email Removed], Willem at gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac wrote on 04/12/2004 10:13 AM:
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote news:[Email Removed]
Spam? Of course not. It's perfectly fine to have a link in your signature. There is currently an idiot calling himself "Mike" who says that we have a problem with it, but he is lying.
Spam? It is perfectly fine to have a link in your signature. But not if it is ArtistMike.com Just a sample of the bigotry and censorship running rampant in Supernews.
Try posting a link to ArtistMike.com if you are posting through Supernews, and your message will be blocked.
Do you like being censored? I hope so.
hahahaha.
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You are still misinformed as to the definition of Bigot. What you mean to
say is Supernews is prejudiced in your case. That would be true, since they
are prejudiced about spammers.
It is Super News that Supernews filters spammers and liars like you!!!
The lurkers support me in email!!!!!
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 07:07 PM
in article [Email Removed], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 12:56 PM:
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA03B7E.F37F1% [Email Removed]:
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 10:53 AM:
What part of ArtistMike being a spammer has blown right by you?
The part where you present your evidence.
Your questions are irrelevent to me.
BWAHAHAHAAHAHA
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I didn't ask you a question.
duh.
hahahahaha.
--
Mike
* Logo Design *
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Stephen
Apr 12 2004, 07:15 PM
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:58:32 -0700, "Mike..."
<[Email Removed]> wrote:
QUOTE |
Supernews was contrated to supply access to newsgroups by my ISP, that is all... now they have taken upon themselves to censor and block people after the fact.
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Stop whining Christy. You the spammer "Hire an artist" trollboy
were busted and got what you deserve.
Try and take it like a man, or at least a boy.
Willem
Apr 12 2004, 07:19 PM
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
QUOTE |
reverend maxwell snort <[Email Removed]> wrote:
If you look at the posts, you'll notice that they were deliberately constructed to bypass the block.
I was thinking server latency, but if he did this on purpose (and even if Seth thinks I'm a fuckhead), I'm non-repentent about attacking him.
When I briefly looked, before this turned into a fiasco, what it looked like was that his posts got caught and were filtered using the URL as the common identifier. So he worked this out and munged the URL to get by the filter, and his account was blocked at that point. I saw nothing to suggest that any complaints were received or acted upon, but I wouldn't be in a position to know that first-hand.
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Based upon what you describe you saw he WAS blocked for what
Supernews considers spam: his url in his sigs.
That leaves the matter of the fake-Mike posts you quoted in
this group. The fake posts you say have nothing to do with
Mike's block. But you will never tell why you did that. So
he will always be seen as a faking spam flooder because some
staff at Supernews and his troll allies in a newsgroup wrote
it.
Not good.
WJ
Willem
Apr 12 2004, 07:19 PM
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
QUOTE |
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
I'm not the one trying to move the goal posts. Supernews itself says he wasn't blocked for spamming.
I said no such thing, liar.
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You can call me names as much as you want if you think that
is professional and will make the rumor go away. It was
written by Supernews staff several times that he was not
blocked for spamming. Now he was. Your and the lamer flamer
troll words against that of other Supernews staff and Mike's
and LP's word.
If you expect your contradictory and suggestive posts and
name-calling have helped to clear the matter of Supernews
blocking innocent users based on forgeries, I'm afraid
you're wrong.
WJ
Willem
Apr 12 2004, 07:19 PM
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
QUOTE |
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
But, it seems Supernews itself pulled fake Mike posts from Google to present them as a case in point of his wrongdoing.
I pulled them from our server, actually. I don't have the message-ids anymore, and I don't feel like digging through this thread for them. But it doesn't really matter -- just do a Google search for Mike's posts and it's quite obvious he's a spammer.
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Ok you pulled them from your own server. But we will never
know why because you keep evading that question.
WJ
Willem
Apr 12 2004, 07:19 PM
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
QUOTE |
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
It has been written by Supernews staff several times now that Mike was not blocked for spamming.
Liar.
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Feel free to write that word again and again. It still was.
You quoted the fake-Mike spam posts as speaking for
themselves. You couldn't explain why you did that. Several
times staff wrote that posts like that or those posts were
not why Mike was blocked.
It will never get cleared up by you and the trolls and
lamers by your side, but the rumor will stay in place too
because of all of this.
WJ
Willem
Apr 12 2004, 07:19 PM
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
QUOTE |
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
Again and again: Supernews itself has repeatedly written it did NOT block Mike for spamming.
Liar.
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And again, feel free to resort to name-calling. You will
never answer my question honestly anyway. You won't tell why
you quoted the fake-Mike spam posts in reply to him when he
said he didn't post (fake) spam (floods).
The fact that you are wearing posters with questions out
with the help of so many trolls and flamers tells me enough
about how this matter must have been dealt with by
Supernews. That's what I wanted to know. I have now seen
three cases come forth stating there were unjustified bans
that were not handled well. And I have seen you, Supernews
staff, suggest and twist and call names.
You were the wrong person to take as representative or
spokesperson of Supernews in this matter. Sorry.
WJ
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:19:46 +0200, "Willem"
<gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
QUOTE |
That leaves the matter of the fake-Mike posts you quoted in this group. The fake posts you say have nothing to do with Mike's block. But you will never tell why you did that. So he will always be seen as a faking spam flooder because some staff at Supernews and his troll allies in a newsgroup wrote it.
Not good.
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It is a good outcome when long term spammers like Christy
are disciplined. His type lack self-discipline, and are in
perpetual denial. His fantasy world implodes when a news
provider acts to curb his troll-spamming. He whines for a while
and finds another news provider and gets on with his silly little
troll life.
Supernews have been made to look like the conscience of America
when all they really do is discipline a chronic spammer in a
minor way.
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 07:51 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 3:17 AM:
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 8:46 PM:
You are spamming if the posts are made *only* to get hits to your site.
My motivation is not for you to decide. It is not for Supernews to decide.
I don't submit my motivations for their, or your ok.
your motivations don't matter.
Then you bringing them up was irrelevant, wasn't it.
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Your having them is irrelevant.
I was amused to find that you used to be a newsread.com reseller's
customer. Still with catalina whatever as the ISP?
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 07:52 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 3:23 AM:
Saying that Supernews has no right to block his posts just because he's posting his url and self promotional material in the body of replies also sounds like a defense of spamming.
And you are connected to Supernews how?
hahahaha.
Cheerleader perhaps?
hahaha.
|
Used to be connected to newsread.com. The ISP you're with might have
had better luck with them than with Supernews, or did that ISP have to
boot you?
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 07:53 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 3:25 AM:
Mike hasn't denied...
Lack of denial does not constitute an admission.
You really are silly.
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I don't defend spamming.
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Apr 12 2004, 07:54 PM
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
QUOTE |
If you expect your contradictory and suggestive posts and name-calling have helped to clear the matter of Supernews blocking innocent users based on forgeries, I'm afraid you're wrong.
|
No matter -- Mike himself has already cleared that up by admitting that
his claim of having been blocked due to those forgeries was a lie.
So I think we're done here, no?
--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Apr 12 2004, 07:55 PM
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
QUOTE |
Ok you pulled them from your own server. But we will never know why because you keep evading that question.
|
Perhaps you have a poor newsfeed? I answered that one over and over and
over in this discussion. You must have missed those posts.
--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 07:59 PM
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> writes:
QUOTE |
Lord Pander <[Email Removed]> wrote news:[Email Removed] "Jeremy Nixon - Supernews" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:[Email Removed]... Jackie <[Email Removed]> wrote:
Got any evidence that "MIke" is doing the spamming? Or is it just silly people using his email address?
It's a vast conspiracy against you, is it? Well, I can certainly see how you'd end up with enemies, I'll grant you that much. Jeremy | [Email Removed]
I think mike is a real prick, and I still think he is correct, as you have done it to me as well. LP
I also think he is telling the truth.
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So, you're a moron.
What motivation is there for Supernews personnel to lie? What
motivation is there for you to lie? What motivation is there for Mike
Christy to lie?
Supernews *has* tolerated Uni, *has* lifted blocks when people have
asked about them in civilized ways, and has an excellent reputation
for being one of the better filtering news services. If that's not
what you want, buy an Altopia account, try to persuade Demon to go
with another more lenient provider.
Basically, there are people who don't want a filtered service. You
should be able to find something that suits you if the majority of
Demon users want the filtered service.
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:05 PM
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:54 PM:
QUOTE |
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
If you expect your contradictory and suggestive posts and name-calling have helped to clear the matter of Supernews blocking innocent users based on forgeries, I'm afraid you're wrong.
No matter -- Mike himself has already cleared that up by admitting that his claim of having been blocked due to those forgeries was a lie.
So I think we're done here, no?
|
That may be what you think I wrote, but I wrote that the forgeries were done
after I was blocked and I did not write them. You attempted to use them as
evidence that I spammed, but I was already blocked by Supernews.
You attempted to use them as evidence that I spammed, but you screwed up. I
did not write them, they were forgeries, and they were done after I was
blocked. So obviously I could not have done them. Unless of course your
blocking system does not work.
":^)
--
Mike
* Logo Design *
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Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:08 PM
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:51 PM:
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 3:17 AM:
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 8:46 PM:
You are spamming if the posts are made *only* to get hits to your site.
My motivation is not for you to decide. It is not for Supernews to decide.
I don't submit my motivations for their, or your ok.
your motivations don't matter.
Then you bringing them up was irrelevant, wasn't it.
Your having them is irrelevant.
|
Not to me.
":^)
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:09 PM
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:52 PM:
QUOTE |
or did that ISP have to boot you?
|
Your questions are not my responsibility.
":^)
--
Mike
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Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:10 PM
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:53 PM:
QUOTE |
I don't defend spamming.
|
Shrug. Who wrote that you did?
hahahaha.
--
Mike
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Site at:
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Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 08:16 PM
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> writes:
QUOTE |
You've naive if you haven't checked that much out and believe someone with lots of socks over a news team that has in the past defended some fairly heavy duty trolls against the people exaggerating claims against them. I peered with Supernews and had a user who was sending joke control messages in very small numbers. Supernews didn't come down on him, even though there was history between Jeremy and the user.
And you're trying to tell me that they're going to lose their objectivity in ArtistMike's case when they didn't in cases that involved a man who had tried to hack Nixon's home machine (and talked about it years later here)?
How naive do you think I think you are?
Not so naive that I don't know you won't nudge from your fixed opinion of Mike as a spammer and from defending Supernews till hell freezes over.
|
I've seen the spam posts; I've seen him defend the "rights" of other
spammers. If you want to have spam in your Usenet, try Altopia. They
don't filter, but they do come down on newsgroup disruptors and on
spammers (and Altopia defines that as strictly if not more strictly
than Supernews -- they'd have nailed Mike Christy and fined him for
promoting a commerical site).
QUOTE |
All of that has nothing to do with why Supernews shows fake posts in connection to Mike. So, maybe I'm naive and you're biased :-)
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Jeremy is not [Email Removed].
Basically, nobody here, except for Mike and his ISP abuse people,
knows precisely why Supernews was filtering him, and in reality, that
is between Supernews and Mike's ISP. If Mike wants to post
correspondence between himself and his ISP over this, he always could
have done that. Since he's not done that, I'm not sure whether the
filter is at Supernews or at his ISP, who is just as capable of
blocking him from posting as Supernews, I suspect.
Those of us in the cheap seats don't know who's blocking him, or why,
really. Mike claims that his ISP told him that Supernews denies they
were blocking him, so perhaps his ISP is blocking him, or he's lying
like a spammer.
I suspect that most of the people commenting on this are just amusing
themselves. Supernews's reputation isn't going to be tainted by this,
but inhanced. They don't out details of their actions (or not, it is
possible that Mike is being blocked by his ISP for all you know) to
the merely curious.
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:20 PM
in article
[email protected], Ed at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:32 PM:
QUOTE |
Heard this, or something very close, on the radio last week.
'Never try to argue with an idiot. If you do, they will simply bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.'
|
You really are behind the times... that has been going around the net for
years.
Move on.
":^)
--
Mike
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Site at:
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Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 08:21 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
QUOTE |
Supernews has collected around itself a nice little group of bigots and wanna-be censors... that support what Supernews does.
They believe it to the right thing to do. Just like YOU do.
":^)
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Supernews is the largest NSP on the planet today because people like
what Supernews does to spammers, newsgroup invaders (filters them
according to info they send their peers), and to people who nym-shift
to evade killfiles (boots them).
I know you don't approve of any restrictions on spam, or anything else
(I've seen your posts). Supernews is the wrong provider for you.
Stay with astraweb -- they'll put up with your crap for longer.
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 08:23 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 9:09 PM:
If Supernews abuse advised you to not do something, then you had two choices. Not do that, or get another NSP account.
There was no communication before the block was put into effect. None.
One day my messages just did not propagate. I called my ISP and they sent me an email stating that Supernews had a block on my posting ability. I sent an email to Supernews and they wrote back they did not know anything about it. "Talk to your ISP."
|
Ever consider that your ISP, which was at one time stupid enough to
get Usenet from newsread.com, is the one with the block on you, and
has been lying to you about Supernews being responsible?
QUOTE |
Spammers lie. Spammers are stupid.
I don't spam.
|
I've seen you spam. You'd have been fined at Altopia for some of your posts.
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 08:25 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 3:34 AM:
By your own admission, you've posted just your url on a number of occasions as a reply to a post.
That is because it was an appropriate response to a graphic question.
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I googled the whole raster to vector question and there were a number
of better answers than "pay me to convert them."
Also, how was a url to your site's Janet Jackson jpg, not in response
to a question, not spamming to get people to go to your site?
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:25 PM
in article [Email Removed], Stephen at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:15 PM:
QUOTE |
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:58:32 -0700, "Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote:
Supernews was contrated to supply access to newsgroups by my ISP, that is all... now they have taken upon themselves to censor and block people after the fact.
Stop whining ...
|
Or what will you do? Cry to me some more?
hahahaha.
--
Mike
* Logo Design *
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Site at:
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Uni
Apr 12 2004, 08:26 PM
Poik wrote:
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA03911.F37EF%[Email Removed]:
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 11:34 AM:
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:
I'm not the one trying to move the goal posts. Supernews itself says he wasn't blocked for spamming.
I said no such thing, liar.
My my... such a professional attitude. I am sure your company is impressed.
Are you sure you want the world to see you react -- to simple questions about how you are running Supernews?
hahahaha.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
How about this one Mikey, why were you filtered to begin with? We know it was not forgeries that caused you to be filtered. So we can now put that lie to rest.
Please post your next lie for refutation!!!!!!!!
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Artist Mike does not lie, son.
:-)
Stifle yourself and go watch TV.
:-)
Uni
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:28 PM
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:59 PM:
QUOTE |
Supernews *has* lifted blocks when people have asked about them in civilized ways...
|
So you admit that Supernews does block people and if those people kiss the
ass of Supernews they will lift the blocks.
hahahaha.
You really are a very poor cheerleader for Supernews.
hahahaha.
--
Mike
* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at:
http://www.artistmike.com
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 08:31 PM
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> writes:
QUOTE |
Poik <[Email Removed]> wrote news:[email protected] "Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:4079b61f$0$85207$c3e8da3 @news.astraweb.com:
You may be the single thickest maroon in the whole mess. You are supporting someone who has to resort to sockpuppets and froggery.
I came here because of the rumours about Supernews blocking innocent users when others use their Supernews addresses. This case just pops up because the blocked person is making noise about it.
|
He was blocked before he was forged. The forgeries may have been Uni
testing the system, for all you know.
If you know of *other* people who claim that Supernews blocked them
because of a joe job, then let them tell their own stories.
Mike's case is clear cut. He doesn't believe that *any* restrictions
on posts is legitimate.
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:32 PM
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 2:16 PM:
QUOTE |
they'd have nailed Mike Christy and fined him for promoting a commerical site.
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Your fantasies are irrelevant.
QUOTE |
I suspect that most of the people commenting on this are just amusing themselves. Supernews's reputation isn't going to be tainted by this, but inhanced.
|
Then you have nothing to be crying about, do you.
hahahaha.
Poik
Apr 12 2004, 08:32 PM
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:407B0977.1050002
@no.email.invalid:
QUOTE |
Artist Mike does lie, son.
|
Thanks, Dad
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 08:33 PM
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> writes:
QUOTE |
It will never get cleared up by you and the trolls and lamers by your side, but the rumor will stay in place too because of all of this.
|
If you find Mike credible and his posting of his url as an answer to
Usenet questions not spam, then you have more problems than Jeremy or
I could possibly straighten out.
--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:34 PM
in article [Email Removed], -- at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:38 PM:
QUOTE |
It is a good outcome when long term spammers like Christy are disciplined.
|
Do you think it is working?
hahahaha.
--
Mike
* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at:
http://www.artistmike.com
Uni
Apr 12 2004, 08:34 PM
Rebecca Ore wrote:
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 9:09 PM:
If Supernews abuse advised you to not do something, then you had two choices. Not do that, or get another NSP account.
There was no communication before the block was put into effect. None.
One day my messages just did not propagate. I called my ISP and they sent me an email stating that Supernews had a block on my posting ability. I sent an email to Supernews and they wrote back they did not know anything about it. "Talk to your ISP."
Ever consider that your ISP, which was at one time stupid enough to get Usenet from newsread.com, is the one with the block on you, and has been lying to you about Supernews being responsible?
Spammers lie. Spammers are stupid.
I don't spam.
I've seen you spam. You'd have been fined at Altopia for some of your posts.
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Fabricate stories. How cute.
:-)
Uni
>
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:38 PM
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 2:23 PM:
QUOTE |
You'd have been fined at Altopia for some of your posts.
|
hahahaha.
Got one scrap of evidence to show that what you think is true?
hahaha.
You are almost as funny as me.
":^)
--
Mike
* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at:
http://www.artistmike.com
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:39 PM
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 2:25 PM:
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes:
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 3:34 AM:
By your own admission, you've posted just your url on a number of occasions as a reply to a post.
That is because it was an appropriate response to a graphic question.
I googled the whole raster to vector question and there were a number of better answers than "pay me to convert them."
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"Better" is irrelevant.
Move on.
":^)
--
Mike
* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at:
http://www.artistmike.com
Tuguns
Apr 12 2004, 08:41 PM
What I really think is... you are a ASS....hahahahah
"Combaticus" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:BC9FFDFB.F368F%[Email Removed]...
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Do you really think that writing to your own ass will work?
Will it answer you? Do you two often write to each other?
hahaha.
in article [Email Removed], Tuguns at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 4:19 PM:
I'm writing you.
"Aratzio" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:BC9C935B.F265B%[Email Removed]... in article [Email Removed], Tuguns at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/09/2004 5:35 PM:
Good now move on Ass.
You writing to your own ass again?
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Poik
Apr 12 2004, 08:43 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA0538A.F3865%
[Email Removed]:
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Your questions are not my responsibility.
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Your stupidity is genetic and therefore your parents responsibility
Tuguns
Apr 12 2004, 08:43 PM
Always a spammer Correct? hahahaha
"AlwaysCorrect" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:BC9FFBD6.F368C%[Email Removed]...
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in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 3:22 PM:
yep. online psychiaty is a growth industy <g
You should try it. You might like it.
":^)
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Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:45 PM
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 1:59 PM:
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What motivation is there for Supernews personnel to lie?
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Maybe because they got busted for censoring a paying customer without just
cause?
":^)
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Mike
* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at:
http://www.artistmike.com
Rebecca Ore
Apr 12 2004, 08:50 PM
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> writes:
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Based upon what you describe you saw he WAS blocked for what Supernews considers spam: his url in his sigs.
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He wasn't just posting his url in his sigs. He was posting his url in
message bodies as "answers" to questions and as out and out
self-promotion (the ArtistMike fan posts).
Posting *just* to get a url out is spam -- and posting a url in the
message body as an answer to a question that could more legitimately
be answered by something less self-serving and more useful (say a
pointer to software that does raster to vector conversions) is spam.
You'd have to be blind or really really dishonest not to have come
across examples of that while Googling ArtistMike.
I vote for really dishonest.
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Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore
Uni
Apr 12 2004, 08:52 PM
Willem wrote:
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Poik <[Email Removed]> wrote news:[email protected]
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:4079b61f$0$85207$c3e8da3 @news.astraweb.com:
You may be the single thickest maroon in the whole mess. You are supporting someone who has to resort to sockpuppets and froggery.
I came here because of the rumours about Supernews blocking innocent users
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Of course, they do. Rather than block spammers, and allow innocent user
articles to migrate to their server, from other NSPs, they block the
ENTIRE NSP, in spite.
:-)
SN Hit List:
Usenetserver
TitanNews
Altopia(?)
:-)
Uni
when others use their Supernews addresses.
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This case just pops up because the blocked person is making noise about it.
WJ
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Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 08:54 PM
Standard Operating Procedure for Supernews. If you stand up for yourself
they will do their best to pound you right back down.
Censorship and bigotry in action.
And for those of you that don't know what the word BIGOTRY means...
1. The state of mind of a bigot; obstinate and unreasoning attachment of
one's own belief and opinions, with narrow-minded intolerance of beliefs
opposed to them.
Now you can stop crying about the word bigotry being use in the wrong way.
hahahaha.
in article [Email Removed], Lord Pander at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 2:10 PM:
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I just received this message from them after three months of requesting a "Review". Before I posted here under Lord Pander there was no response at all. Now not only do they deny that the posts where fake (I have proven so to the isp of the person who forged them), but they are threatening to completely block me now. Way to treat a paying customer don't you think? Give their statement a read and see for your self.
=-------------------------------= You are blocked for previous abusive behaviour. We can make that more thorough (ie, block your "Lord Pander" posts as well), but haven't had any complaints and until you brought it up in abnsc wouldn't have bothered to make the connection.
No one "faked the trace information" or any such thing, either. That's almost such a poor excuse to make me think there is something to it, but since we're looking at our logs and not at the articles people send in then any sort of attempt to frame you would require far more effort.
If you'd like this reviewed, have your ISP contact us on your behalf. We'll explain the entirity of the situation to them along with our recommendations and see if something can be worked out.
Supernews Abuse Desk =----------------------------------=
By the way, my ISP already has contacted them and told them nothing about it but to have my contact them myself. At least I got a reply this time, al be it nonsense. So you can see what happens when you don't bend over for their tyrannical corporate policies. I did not take the time to correct their spelling by the way.
This only leaves me to think ho many others there are out there that have had this happen to them and why. Are they trying to cover their tracks? Well yes they are, they incompetent? Well yes they are. When the guilty party admits online to doing this to people and his ISP pulls his account after I and others complained (and they actually investigated), supernews is still holding to the part line. After all if they are wrong about this one, how many other victims are there? Maybe enough for a class action lawsuit? Think about it, it has been done before. Supernews is starting to look like the Enron of the news server set.
And yes I expect them to carry out their threat now and block me completely. Too bad the ISP I am switching to next month does not use them.
LP
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Mike
* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at:
http://www.artistmike.com
Poik
Apr 12 2004, 08:55 PM
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:407B0B7B.7030501
@no.email.invalid:
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Fabricate stories. I do.
:-)
Uni
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Wow the truth from Uni
Calendar
Apr 12 2004, 08:56 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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It is a good outcome when long term spammers like Christy are disciplined.
Do you think it is working?
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Yes, judging by the tantrum you threw. Of course it worked.
Poik
Apr 12 2004, 08:59 PM
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:407B0FA3.2060409
@no.email.invalid:
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Of course, they do. Rather than block spammers, and allow innocent user articles to migrate to their server, from other NSPs, they block the ENTIRE NSP, in spite.
:-)
SN Hit List: Usenetserver <-- Lie TitanNews Altopia(?)
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You forgot the spammer ArtistMike
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Uni
Apr 12 2004, 08:59 PM
Poik wrote:
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Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:407B0977.1050002 @no.email.invalid:
Poik does lie, son.
Thanks, Dad
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Not a problem, Puck.
:-)
Uni
Mike...
Apr 12 2004, 09:00 PM
in article
[email protected], Poik at [Email Removed]
wrote on 04/12/2004 2:23 PM:
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Your list of 11 socks and frogs was impressive. I do believe a few abuse complaints may be registered with astraweb and Mike is possibly going to have to find another NSP. Hopefully he will learn (unlikely given his association with Uni) from this mistake and be able to keep his next account.
Do try to keep Mike entertained while I am gone.
Bye Y'all
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Crybabies and tattle tails... how funny.
hahahaha.
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Mike
* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!
Site at:
http://www.artistmike.com
Poik
Apr 12 2004, 09:02 PM
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in
news:BCA05C05.F38B3%[Email Removed]:
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Maybe because they got busted for censoring a paying customer without just cause?
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And you are just a spammer without just cause.
Since you were NEVER a supernews customer, you just LIED as usual.
Now Spin some more fairy tales my little pet.
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