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Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FFF00.F36A2%
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No problem.  Nice that you know quality when you see it.



I love such a quality k00k dance!!!!2!!!

Please do continue to dance for me!!!!

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FFF36.F36A3%
[Email Removed]:

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Good, then move on.



Why, you do such an excellent k00k dance?

I think I shall make you today's favorite dancer.

Now Dance k00ky spammer ArtistMike!!!!

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FFF79.F36A4%
[Email Removed]:

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I do enjoy it when my groupies start writing like me.



So can you spin just a little faster, I can still see your feet.

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FFFCF.F36A5%
[Email Removed]:

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in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 4:39 AM:


You spin any faster "net Toy" you will fly.

":^)

right, trying



Try flapping your arms too spammy.

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA0009B.F36A7%
[Email Removed]:

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in article [Email Removed], Aratzio at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 8:02 AM:

Having a spammer like
ArtistMike frog me is probably the most 3rd or 4th lamest thing he has
done. The post edits are probably the lamest and the massive amount of
sock puppets he requires to carry on 3rd person discussions about
himself would be 2nd. Using the 'Tard as a supporter and frogging me
is a toss-up for lameness. Lying and context snips are a distant 5th &
6th lamest things our Spammer has done.


I like it when groupies keep track of my lameness.

hahahaha.


I like it when my spinning net toy admits when he is OWNED!!!!!

Mikey admits to his own lameness.

Mike...
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 8:29 AM:


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ArtistMike the Spammer talking to his own Sock about writing to his own
Ass!!!!!


I do enjoy your confusion.

":^)


--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in
news:BCA001C9.F36A9%[Email Removed]:

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in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 4:43 AM:


Is there some reason I should care what you think?



Nope.

Good, then you are dismissed.

":^)



I understand how frustrated you are, but spammers like you get what
they deserve. Filtered by supernews.

hahahaha.

You get what you deserve when you agree to have your newsgroups
filtered by Supernews.  Namely, censored newsgroups.

":^)


And the really cool thing for supernews users No Spam from
ArtistMike!!!!!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Spin just a little harder!!!1

Mike...
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 8:30 AM:

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"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FFF00.F36A2%
[Email Removed]:



No problem.  Nice that you know quality when you see it.



I love such a quality website!!!!

Please do continue to show me more!!!!


http://www.artistmike.com/smallart.html

--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA00205.F36AA%
[Email Removed]:

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Obviously not.  Because you see my messages.

hahaha.




Read headers very well? What a maroon!!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Spin just a bit harder, you almost are there!!!!!!

Mike...
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 8:38 AM:


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my lameness.


Don't feel too bad, I don't notice your limp hardly at all.

":^)


--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Mike...
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 8:39 AM:


QUOTE
And the really cool thing for supernews users Lots of  Spam from
Poik.

Nice that you admit what you are doing. The Truth will set you free.

":^)



--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA0062A.F36E9%
[Email Removed]:

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in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 8:29 AM:


ArtistMike the Spammer talking to his own Sock about writing to his
own
Ass!!!!!


I do enjoy your confusion.


You tried that once before, the voices getting confusing? Need more meds?

Spin oh confused paranoid sock man!!!!!

Lie some more so we can laugh at you more!!!!!!!

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA006AF.F36EF%
[Email Removed]:

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in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 8:30 AM:

"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FFF00.F36A2%
[Email Removed]:



No problem.  Nice that you know quality when you see it.



I love such a quality website!!!!

Please do continue to show me more!!!!


http://www.artistmike.com/smallart.html


BWAHAHAHAHA

I just checked, your post was filtered by Supernews!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to go Net k00k!!!!!!!

K00k us some more foolishness !!!!!!!

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA0076E.F36F4%
[Email Removed]:

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in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 8:38 AM:


my lameness.


Don't feel too bad, I don't notice your limp hardly at all.

":^)



Spin harder, post edit some more, you are getting tired Mikey. Better
spam some more to see how much Supernews filters.

WHHHEEEEEEE

Your game is getting weaker by the minute my little net toy!!!

Pathetic k00k out by ArtistMike the spammer!!!!!!!

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA0099C.F374E%
[Email Removed]:

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And the really cool thing for supernews users Lots of  Spam from
ArtistMike.

Nice that you admit what you are doing.  The Truth will set you free.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAA Lame ass post edits!!!!!!!!!!

You are getting Lamer my little net toy. Ownership of you is next!!!

Post Edit repaired.

I see much spinning in your future.

Please do continue

Willem
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
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Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

You keep denying you actually said they are by him but
also you keep suggesting it. If you don't have proof or
don't want to present proof, you have no reason to keep
bringing them up in relation to Mike and the reason you
blocked him.

If you're just going to keep on misrepresenting the
things I say so you'll have something to attack (cf.
"straw man argument") then I see little point in carrying
on this conversation.

So I'll try saying the same thing yet again: those posts
were *not* the reason he was blocked, and at no point did
I ever claim that they were.

If you can't understand that after my having said it over
and over, then, whatever, carry on.

Mike wrote he hadn't been spamming, your reply to him was to
quote fake spam messages that "speak for themselves" and
"are not forged".

Of course Supernews is free to call me a liar or an attacker
for asking why you quoted the fake messages in relation to
Mike.

WJ

Willem
Lord Pander <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
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"Rebecca Ore" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...

If you were being filtered, you could have discussed it
with Supernews and your ISP.  If you were being forged,
you could file abuse reports with the forgers' ISP.

Did this as did many others and he got kicked from his
ISP. But still being filtered by supernews.

Exactly, this is what I read about Supernews too. That's how
I found my way here. But in this newsgroup where the
Supernews staff hangs out with trolls and flamers you get
called a liar and a moron in no time when you ask about it.
That makes me believe it has to be true. Not just about Mike
and you.

WJ

Willem
Rebecca Ore <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
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"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> writes:
Rebecca Ore <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> writes:

You're either another sock or you're naive.

Or I have a different view as an outsider who has read
about Supernews blocking for urls. O, and I believe in
the truth about a person even if he is a dickhead. If
it's naive to be against "anything is allowed because
it's just him", yes then I am naive.

Basically, Mike has habitually posted just his url
various places (or his socks have).  Check the user agent
for some of these pro-Mike posts.  They're all the same,
and they're all posting from Astraweb, which doesn't have
a very good reputation for being strict against spam (see
Spam Hippo reports).

You've naive if you haven't checked that much out and
believe someone with lots of socks over a news team that
has in the past defended some fairly heavy duty trolls
against the people exaggerating claims against them.  I
peered with Supernews and had a user who was sending joke
control messages in very small numbers.  Supernews didn't
come down on him, even though there was history between
Jeremy and the user.

And you're trying to tell me that they're going to lose
their objectivity in ArtistMike's case when they didn't
in cases that involved a man who had tried to hack
Nixon's home machine (and talked about it years later
here)?

How naive do you think I think you are?

Not so naive that I don't know you won't nudge from your
fixed opinion of Mike as a spammer and from defending
Supernews till hell freezes over.

Your description of other cases has just made it seem Mike
must have committed a terrible crime like posting child
or something, which is kind of silly and not very convincing
of the justification of the block.

Bringing up Astraweb is no good. Many get impostered with
their nicks and mailers and OS'es. You should know that if
people are smart enough to hack machines, they're smart
enough to fake making it look totally convincing.

All of that has nothing to do with why Supernews shows fake
posts in connection to Mike. So, maybe I'm naive and you're
biased :-)

WJ

Willem
Andrew - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
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On 2004-04-11, Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid> wrote:

Jeremy, if you don't want people to draw conclusions from
your words, you should be careful with them. You suggest
and imply too much. This time you point Mike out as a
newsgroup disrupter, but isn't this group full of them?
Zimphire posts from Supernews too, who draws the line
and where I wonder.

Haven't you ever heard the response "use a killfile" as a
solution to dealing with people you disagree with on
Usenet?

Yes I have heard of many things, Andrew :-)

I heard Supernews blocks users because their names get used
to spam with from Supernews, because Supernews has a lousy
log configuration to check who really posted what. That is
the issue, not killfiles.

QUOTE
The flip side of that argument is that if you're going to
argue in favour of killfiles as a solution, then you need
to ensure that they actually _work_. So, we have a large
tolerance for behaviour that can be trivially handled
with a killfile entry, but a small tolerance for anything
which can not: e.g. nymshifting, abusive use of
crossposting or followup-to to flood a group with
unexpected posts, or similar tactics.

Jeremy presented fake-Mike spam posts as speaking for
themselves in relation to Mike. Maybe I can agree with
Supernews' tolerance in other matters, but they are not the
issue.

WJ

Willem
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
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Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

But he is not doing it from Supernews.. if it is him. So
it is irrelevant. Unless you mean he did the same thing
from Supernews and that is why he got blocked.

No, that's not what I mean.  What I said was that his
behavior *would be* a violation *if* done from Supernews.
The relevance is that this won't make us inclined to want
him posting from our system.

You don't want him posting from your system because you
think he will nym? What if he started to nym after Supernews
blocked him and others did it to him too and a whole cabal
jumped on him together with Supernews staff. So many
possibilities of why a person comes to certain actions when
there isn't a fair solution.

QUOTE
Jeremy, if you don't want people to draw conclusions from
your words, you should be careful with them. You suggest
and imply too much. This time you point Mike out as a
newsgroup disrupter, but isn't this group full of them?
Zimphire posts from Supernews too, who draws the line
and where I wonder.

I prefer to draw the line well away from the gray area,
erring on the side of leniency.  But in practice I'm
happy to leave that stuff up to the abuse department.

I agree abuse should settle and straighten out this matter
and all other cases of blocks for things users didn't do.

WJ

Willem
Poik <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[email protected]
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"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in
news:4079b61f$0$85207$c3e8da3 @news.astraweb.com:

You may be the single thickest maroon in the whole mess.
You are supporting someone who has to resort to
sockpuppets and froggery.

I came here because of the rumours about Supernews blocking
innocent users when others use their Supernews addresses.
This case just pops up because the blocked person is making
noise about it.

WJ

Willem
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote

QUOTE
Our abuse manager could remove the block tomorrow, for
all I care.  I wouldn't try to stop him.

Why not tell him to do it and be done with this.

All these fixed opinions from all sides about corrupt
newsproviders and prehistoric faqs and facts don't really
seem aimed towards resolving the matter. Calling people
liars and morons and misrepresenting things doesn't help
either.

WJ

Willem
Anthony Edwards <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
QUOTE
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:16:39 +0200, Willem
<gaatjenietaan@notvalid> wrote:

I think you should, and Andrew too. It's not about one
person called Mike. It's about fairness and a trustworthy
abuse policy.

Supernews have exactly such a policy, which is one reason
why I personally entrust my Usenet access to them,
despite having free access to a number of other Usenet
services at various sites.

I see too many cases of users being blocked and not getting
an answer from Supernews when they ask why. Any spammer or
troll on Supernews seems to get his way when they want to
set another user up by posting with their nick.

WJ

Willem
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
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Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

Seems everyone knows that for a fact in here. Strange.

"Everyone" amounts to one person posting under multiple
names, who chooses to lie, and to continually claim I
have said things that I clearly have not said.

No, "everyone" amounts to the majority of flamers, lamers
and trolls in this newsgroup who support Supernews in this
matter.

Now you are putting words in _my_ mouth too.

WJ

Willem
Lord Pander <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
QUOTE
"Jeremy Nixon - Supernews" <[Email Removed]> wrote
in message news:[Email Removed]...
Jackie  <[Email Removed]> wrote:

Got any evidence that "MIke" is doing the spamming?  Or
is it just silly people using his email address?

It's a vast conspiracy against you, is it?
Well, I can certainly see how you'd end up with enemies,
I'll grant you that much.
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

I think mike is a real prick, and I still think he is
correct, as you have done it to me as well.
LP

I also think he is telling the truth.

WJ

Poik
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:407ad2c9$0$13903
$[Email Removed]:

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Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote

Our abuse manager could remove the block tomorrow, for
all I care.  I wouldn't try to stop him.

Why not tell him to do it and be done with this.

Because ArtistMike has burned every bridge he had behind him. That and
the fuckwit is a spammer.

QUOTE

All these fixed opinions from all sides about corrupt
newsproviders and prehistoric faqs and facts don't really
seem aimed towards resolving the matter. Calling people
liars and morons and misrepresenting things doesn't help
either.

WJ


So you just misrepresent the fact that ArtistMike is a spammer? What part
of ArtistMike being a spammer has blown right by you?

Poik
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:407ad2ca$0$13903
$[Email Removed]:

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Anthony Edwards <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:16:39 +0200, Willem
<gaatjenietaan@notvalid> wrote:

I think you should, and Andrew too. It's not about one
person called Mike. It's about fairness and a trustworthy
abuse policy.

Supernews have exactly such a policy, which is one reason
why I personally entrust my Usenet access to them,
despite having free access to a number of other Usenet
services at various sites.

I see too many cases of users being blocked and not getting
an answer from Supernews when they ask why. Any spammer or
troll on Supernews seems to get his way when they want to
set another user up by posting with their nick.

WJ


Post proof or be called a liar again. Making bald accusation like that

are meat and potatoes for apologists like yourself. You figure you say it
loud enough and long enough people will believe you.

So post proof

Poik
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:407ad2cb$0$13903
$[Email Removed]:

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Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

Seems everyone knows that for a fact in here. Strange.

"Everyone" amounts to one person posting under multiple
names, who chooses to lie, and to continually claim I
have said things that I clearly have not said.

No, "everyone" amounts to the majority of flamers, lamers
and trolls in this newsgroup who support Supernews in this
matter.

Now you are putting words in _my_ mouth too.

WJ


And yet you never quite get the fact that most of the people in this
group have NO vested interest in Supernews.

So how long you going to put words in Jermey mouth. Post your proof

Poik
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:407ad2cb$1$13903
$[Email Removed]:

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Lord Pander <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
"Jeremy Nixon - Supernews" <[Email Removed]> wrote
in message news:[Email Removed]...
Jackie  <[Email Removed]> wrote:

Got any evidence that "MIke" is doing the spamming?  Or
is it just silly people using his email address?

It's a vast conspiracy against you, is it?
Well, I can certainly see how you'd end up with enemies,
I'll grant you that much.
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

I think mike is a real prick, and I still think he is
correct, as you have done it to me as well.
LP

I also think he is telling the truth.

WJ


WOW!!!!
Now there is a stretch of logic. A nym shifting, frogging spammer is more
believable than one of the best known, reliable, honest NSP in the
business.

You know there have been a lot of strange things posted to the Usenet
over the years but your post may be flat out the single most
intellectually dishonest piece of tripe ever.

Willem
Poik <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[email protected]
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"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in
news:407ace76$0$13919 $[Email Removed]:

Mike wrote he hadn't been spamming, your reply to him
was to quote fake spam messages that "speak for
themselves" and "are not forged".

Of course you never did answer the question about which
came first the filter or the forgery. Why is that?

The question is why Supernews brought them up as "non-forged
material speaking for itself".

Don't wait for me to respond to all your other little snaps.
Your attempts to play a sharp contributor to the subject
might look a little less silly if at least your system clock
was set to the right time :-)

WJ

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

QUOTE
I see too many cases of users being blocked and not getting
an answer from Supernews when they ask why.

"Too many" being Mike, and... well, that's about it, I guess?

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

QUOTE
All these fixed opinions from all sides about corrupt
newsproviders and prehistoric faqs and facts don't really
seem aimed towards resolving the matter. Calling people
liars and morons and misrepresenting things doesn't help
either.

I call you a liar because you are a liar.

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Mike... <[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
Someone else made the forgeries and posted them through Supernews, after I
was blocked.

So you now admit that you were lying when you claimed you were blocked
based on the forgeries?

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Poik
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:407adaf5$0$13925
$[Email Removed]:

QUOTE
Poik <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[email protected]
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in
news:407ace76$0$13919 $[Email Removed]:

Mike wrote he hadn't been spamming, your reply to him
was to quote fake spam messages that "speak for
themselves" and "are not forged".

Of course you never did answer the question about which
came first the filter or the forgery. Why is that?

The question is why Supernews brought them up as "non-forged
material speaking for itself".

Don't wait for me to respond to all your other little snaps.
Your attempts to play a sharp contributor to the subject
might look a little less silly if at least your system clock
was set to the right time :-)

WJ


So you would rather lame about the clock than actually answer a question
that puts your specious comments to the test?

Poik
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote in
news:[Email Removed]:

QUOTE
Mike... <[Email Removed]> wrote:

Someone else made the forgeries and posted them through Supernews,
after I was blocked.

So you now admit that you were lying when you claimed you were blocked
based on the forgeries?


I see Petards and what is hanging from said Petard? It is a Spammer hoist
upon his own.

Poik
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:407adaf5$0$13925
$[Email Removed]:

QUOTE
Poik <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[email protected]
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in
news:407ace76$0$13919 $[Email Removed]:

Mike wrote he hadn't been spamming, your reply to him
was to quote fake spam messages that "speak for
themselves" and "are not forged".

Of course you never did answer the question about which
came first the filter or the forgery. Why is that?

The question is why Supernews brought them up as "non-forged
material speaking for itself".

Don't wait for me to respond to all your other little snaps.
Your attempts to play a sharp contributor to the subject
might look a little less silly if at least your system clock
was set to the right time :-)

WJ

As for "sharp contributor" at least I do not have to make up lies for my

contribution. Your contributions have been nothing but lies and well,
more lies. My contribution has been to play little Mikeys game better
than he does.

Care to post some other lame ass crap now?

How about some mids to back up your claims. I can back up Mike is a
spammer. Just by hoping over to google and searching. You on the other
hand have hmmm, nothing to back your words up.

So which is it, chicken or egg time:
Filtered first or forgeries first, you cannot have it both ways.

Okay I will give you a little clue, the filter was first.

So now what does that do to the claim that Mike is filter based upon
forgeries. The one Mike so speciously claims and you support? Back up
your claims if you can. You say you believe Mike, but how can that be if
he is obviously lying.

Good Point
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:<BC9FF98E.F35C5%[Email Removed]>...

QUOTE
Someone else made the forgeries and posted them through Supernews, after I
was blocked.

So why were you blocked? For spamming maybe? Hahahaha.

Glad to see you get some disciplining from Supernews. Sorry to see
you whining about it.

Mike...
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 11:33 AM:

QUOTE
Mike... <[Email Removed]> wrote:

Someone else made the forgeries and posted them through Supernews, after I
was blocked.

So you now admit that you were lying when you claimed you were blocked
based on the forgeries?


You posted them and claimed they would "speak for themselves". Too bad they
were forgeries and posted after I was blocked from your system.

You just screwed up, again.

":^)


--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Mike...
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 11:34 AM:

QUOTE
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

I'm not the one trying to move the goal posts. Supernews
itself says he wasn't blocked for spamming.

I said no such thing, liar.


My my... such a professional attitude. I am sure your company is impressed.

Are you sure you want the world to see you react -- to simple questions
about how you are running Supernews?

hahahaha.

--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Mike...
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 11:35 AM:

QUOTE
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

But, it seems Supernews itself pulled fake Mike posts from
Google to present them as a case in point of his wrongdoing.

I pulled them from our server, actually.  I don't have the message-ids
anymore, and I don't feel like digging through this thread for them.
But it doesn't really matter -- just do a Google search for Mike's
posts and it's quite obvious he's a spammer.


Post your evidence so that I can see it.

Post the messages that are the basis for your filtering of my messages.


--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Mike...
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 10:53 AM:

QUOTE
What part
of ArtistMike being a spammer has blown right by you?



The part where you present your evidence.

Mike...
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 10:55 AM:

QUOTE
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:407ad2ca$0$13903
$[Email Removed]:

Anthony Edwards <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:16:39 +0200, Willem
<gaatjenietaan@notvalid> wrote:

I think you should, and Andrew too. It's not about one
person called Mike. It's about fairness and a trustworthy
abuse policy.

Supernews have exactly such a policy, which is one reason
why I personally entrust my Usenet access to them,
despite having free access to a number of other Usenet
services at various sites.

I see too many cases of users being blocked and not getting
an answer from Supernews when they ask why. Any spammer or
troll on Supernews seems to get his way when they want to
set another user up by posting with their nick.

WJ


Post proof or be called a liar again. Making bald accusation like that
are meat and potatoes for apologists like yourself. You figure you say it
loud enough and long enough people will believe you.

So post proof.


Like you do when writing that some people spam when they do not and there is
no evidence that the did or do spam.

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in
news:BCA03882.F37EE%[Email Removed]:

QUOTE

You posted them and claimed they would "speak for themselves".  Too
bad they were forgeries and posted after I was blocked from your
system.



WHHHEEEEE
Mike proves he is a liar.
Self SPNAK!!!!!!!!

So they filtered you before the forgeries. Therefore you LIED about them
using forgeries to filter your spammy ass!!!!!

Thank you so much you lying spammer!!!!!

Insert attempt to wiggle out of your LIES here:

Mike...
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 10:56 AM:

QUOTE
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote in news:407ad2cb$0$13903
$[Email Removed]:

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

Seems everyone knows that for a fact in here. Strange.

"Everyone" amounts to one person posting under multiple
names, who chooses to lie, and to continually claim I
have said things that I clearly have not said.

No, "everyone" amounts to the majority of flamers, lamers
and trolls in this newsgroup who support Supernews in this
matter.

Now you are putting words in _my_ mouth too.

WJ


And yet you never quite get the fact that most of the people in this
group have NO vested interest in Supernews.


But not all.

":^)

That means there are some who do have a vested interest in Supernews.

hahahaha.

Supernews has collected around itself a nice little group of bigots and
wanna-be censors... that support what Supernews does.

They believe it to the right thing to do. Just like YOU do.

":^)

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in
news:BCA03911.F37EF%[Email Removed]:

QUOTE
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 11:34 AM:

Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

I'm not the one trying to move the goal posts. Supernews
itself says he wasn't blocked for spamming.

I said no such thing, liar.


My my... such a professional attitude.  I am sure your company is
impressed.

Are you sure you want the world to see you react -- to simple
questions about how you are running Supernews?

hahahaha.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How about this one Mikey, why were you filtered to begin with? We know it
was not forgeries that caused you to be filtered. So we can now put that
lie to rest.

Please post your next lie for refutation!!!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mike...
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 11:02 AM:

QUOTE
A nym shifting, frogging spammer is more
believable than one of the best known, reliable, honest NSP in the
business.


Especially when they are busted trying to pawn off fake messages as evidence
of "spamming".


hahahahaha.

Mike...
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 11:32 AM:

QUOTE
Willem <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> wrote:

All these fixed opinions from all sides about corrupt
newsproviders and prehistoric faqs and facts don't really
seem aimed towards resolving the matter. Calling people
liars and morons and misrepresenting things doesn't help
either.

I call you a liar because you are a liar.

And you are called a bigot and a censor because you are one.

":^)

Mike...
in article 407ace79$0$13919$[Email Removed], Willem at
gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac wrote on 04/12/2004 10:13 AM:

QUOTE
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote
news:[Email Removed]

Spam?  Of course not.  It's perfectly fine to have a link
in your signature. There is currently an idiot calling
himself "Mike" who says that we have a problem with it,
but he is lying.



Spam? It is perfectly fine to have a link in your signature. But not if it
is ArtistMike.com Just a sample of the bigotry and censorship running
rampant in Supernews.

Try posting a link to ArtistMike.com if you are posting through Supernews,
and your message will be blocked.

Do you like being censored? I hope so.


hahahaha.

--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Mike...
in article [Email Removed], Good Point at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 12:08 PM:

QUOTE
Sorry to see
you whining about it.


I am glad it bothers you.

--
Mike

* Logo Design *
Put some fun in your next logo!

Site at: http://www.artistmike.com

Poik
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BCA03B7E.F37F1%
[Email Removed]:

QUOTE
in article [email protected], Poik at
[Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 10:53 AM:

What part
of ArtistMike being a spammer has blown right by you?



The part where you present your evidence.





Your questions are irrelevent to me.

BWAHAHAHAAHAHA


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