Extreme stupidity? Lunacy? Bottle fed rather than breast fed?

'Ratz

Basically, if you were posting mainly to get your url out in front of
people and that was obvious, and you weren't contributing anything
else as a solution to the problems posed, then you *were* spamming.
Posting just your url to your commercial site as an "answer" to a
question is cancellable spam if you do this more than 20 times over a
45 day period (roughly, see Skirvin's FAQ for the details).

Supernews has a reputation for doing a lot to protect its users
against exaggerated complaints. You seem to be defining spam in your
own special way, so I believe Supernews personnel over you. I suspect
that about everyone else, except for Uni, also thinks you're an
abuser.

If people in a group are telling you to knock off the spamming, you
might want to check with your provider and see if the provider
considers what you're doing spam. The provider's opinion, not yours,
is what you have to accept as long as you're with that provider.

Morphing to evade killfiles is considered abuse by some providers,
including Supernews.

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Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore

Okay, what *is* your definition of spam?

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Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore

the big question does he really have customers, or are his socks just
buying stuff from him. I mean, that's how he posts; it stand to
reason...

I've had "threats" I've made archived for years. this doesn't worry me.
it should tell you quite a bit about me, however. ready to play?
c'mon; say the word. you're chicken, aren't you?

//note to self: add "dave" to list of socks//

I don't *want you to go away. I *want you to play a game with me.
c'mon; anyone with the balls to SPAM USENET isn't afraid of a game.

well, first, you have to realize that I'm the guy using *your computer
when you blackout. we are all taking turns. we are all mike. I am
mike, you are mike. look deep inside; you know it's true. we (you, me,
mike, everybody; the whole group; we just think we're "always correct".
and, we are all you. we all only exist in your head. does it make a
little more sense, now?)

so's verizon, fwiw.

they all are. none of them like spam. we should be allowed to spam,
shouldn't we? after all, we own usenet and the NSP's, since we pay
their salaries, right? fuck them; we own them? is this the root of our
problem?

yep. online psychiaty is a growth industy <g>

"alwayscorrect"'s

not on a dare.
not with a borrowed penis.

Your sexual fantasies involve not getting rejected by your mother

quick question, have you ever heard of an indefinite pronoun? please
define the word "that" in our senseless reply, so I may understand you.
incoherant drivel is what was written, I'm just trying to understand it.

need some help answering his question, huh?

ok, bu do you have the balls to back that statement up?

I wish you to post more. lots more. I wish you to troll this group
like there's no tomorrow. mostly, I wish you'd play a little game with
me.

only in your mind. ITRW, they usually only block fuckheads and
spammers. which one are you?



trick question; you're both.

no problem. I particularly like that one. btw, my mother's dead.

I was thinking server latency, but if he did this on purpose (and even
if Seth thinks I'm a fuckhead), I'm non-repentent about attacking him.

Supernews isn't telling the other side.

It was Andrew who spoke for Jeremy saying the fakes are from
after the block. I don't see Jeremy write he discovered that
later. Still leaves open the question why Jeremy brought
them up at all in relation to Mike.

So are you saying Mike was blocked by Supernews for
impostering and faking. Or is it still for spamming.
Everyone has an opinion, Supernews won't tell. Not many
options aside from those two, are there.

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define spam

Well, "stupid and annoying" doesn't make a good argument for it being spam;
and none of us is in the habit of blocking stuff about competitors. Heck,
we'd have to block most of this newsgroup. :)

I've no idea. Had he complained in a reasonable and mature manner, the
whole thing would have gone very differently.

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Jeremy | [Email Removed]

When I briefly looked, before this turned into a fiasco, what it looked
like was that his posts got caught and were filtered using the URL as
the common identifier. So he worked this out and munged the URL to get
by the filter, and his account was blocked at that point. I saw nothing
to suggest that any complaints were received or acted upon, but I wouldn't
be in a position to know that first-hand.

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Jeremy | [Email Removed]

No, that's not what I mean. What I said was that his behavior *would be*
a violation *if* done from Supernews. The relevance is that this won't
make us inclined to want him posting from our system.

I prefer to draw the line well away from the gray area, erring on the
side of leniency. But in practice I'm happy to leave that stuff up
to the abuse department.

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Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Nope. I'm not the one handling abuse, so what I care about wouldn't
result in decisions being made in that area.

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Jeremy | [Email Removed]

ArtistMike.com is not in the business of running a news host. So his
opinion about Supernews and his own Graphic business are not related. But
of course some silly person like you would think that there were.

I am pleased it bothered you.

So what?

But you use such ideas to make your personal "policy" which in turn colors
your Official Supernews "policy".

Blah Blah Blah

"Kiss our ass and kiss our ass, and kiss our ass..."

Because he chose to work around a faulty filter?

hahahahaha.

You really are one very silly person.

hahahahaha.

Yes it is... and there is nothing you can do about it except cry and moan.

So let's read another message about how you are bothered by what other
people choose to do in newsgroups.

hahahaha.

"Chicken" of what?

You don't need permission to "play" your little game, do you?

hahahaha.

What you want is irrelevant.

Not interested.

Your education is not anyone's responsibility but your own. Answer your own
questions.

Nice straw man, but I don't think it'll fly.

Our abuse manager could remove the block tomorrow, for all I care. I wouldn't
try to stop him.

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Jeremy | [Email Removed]

You poor baby. Tough shit.

The newsgroup is working just fine. The newsgroup has messages in it, and
people are writing and responding and no one is being blocked. How about
that! Amazing.

The topic of the newsgroup is being followed and Supernews is the topic at
hand.

Your personal "policy" is being exposed for what it is, and you think that
is "disruption".

hahahahaha.

Tough...

The idea that this newsgroup is being "disrupted" is an invention of your
little mind. The newsgroup is working just fine.

No disruption is happening.

If you feel "disrupted" that is because YOU choose to feel that. What you
choose to feel is not anyone's responsibility but your own.


Deal with it, little one.

Not like you of course... with no preconceived notions.

hahahaha.

Well, they did it with Mike.

Got any evidence of that?

Or you can make those "policies" public and let the chips fall where they
may.

I didn't say it was faulty.

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Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Of course the newsgroup is full of them. But he makes his "policy" up as he
goes. There is no line... there is no quantity that must be stayed away
from, so you don't cross that line. There is only his personal "policy"
that gets made up as he goes.

"Mike" crossed that line, where ever it was, and he got blocked. Now they
are attempting to justify that "line" and that "policy" by using faked
messages that were done AFTER he was blocked.

He is a cheerleader for Supernews, so naturally the line is not nearly as
close to what he is doing. Naturally.

Supernews is full of bigots, and censors, and they want to keep it that way.

Unlike your infamous Sucknews filter which blocked a post of mine
because I (GASP!) included the URL of a competitor of yours in a post? ;)
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If you aren't Mike, why were you spamming his url, Mike?

--
Rebecca Ore
http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore

Not Mike's job to "contribute to a solution". If "Mike" wants to make a
smart remark and that is all then that is all that "Mike" has to do.

There is no law that says messages must provide "solutions" to questions or
problems asked by people in newsgroups.

You are being silly.

If "Mike" thought his services were the correct answer to the question, then
his reply was on topic and correct.

":^)

The are getting a reputation for being full of bigots and censors now.

I don't think "Mike" cares what silly people think in newsgroups. As far as
what news providers think spam is... Supernews has yet to provide any
evidence that "Mike" did any spamming.

Your opinion is irrelevant.

Not "Mike's" job to educate you.

You really do have a hard time reading, don't you.

People that answer their own questions really just want to play with
themselves.