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Tom
Its a nice design...

Ill try and be useful here...

Plain and simple is the key here, links should be consistent - the links at
the bottom of the page are a mixed assortment of the ones at the top, I
would remove them and add them to the left hand menu. All the navigation
would be in one place then, and would aid navigation.

Colours are excellent, contrast well and complement each other.

Today's deals / Special offers.... are they not the same thing? Why
separate them? Are the 4 boxes at the bottom special offers too?

Logo is unclear, would be cool if the logo used the cream in some way to
keep in touch with the colour scheme.

This site reminds me of www.dabs.com , take a look and get some ideas, they
have redone their site and done a good job of it too.

Keep in mind functionality over appearance.

Cheers,
Tom


"mark | r" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
am designing an ecommerce system and wonder is there are any obvious flaws
in the design of this site?

http://nemark.neue.co.uk/nemark.htm

the domain just became active, if you have difficulties it may still be
propagating for you.

mark



Carol Ott
No, you wouldn't even out. You're allowed to deduct a percentage of your
total business expenses....so you might make out better, or a little worse,
depending on the amount. There are very few deductions where you're allowed
to take 100% of the total.

Carol

"OJ" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
Just wondering if you were serious or joking here, because if you did
report it, and then deducted, you would even out. ...

oj


Matt Bostock
Geez... what's up with you two?

The guy wasn't calling cpg and idiot, just Mark thought, in his opinion,
that it wasn't too hard to find. Mark said that in the nicest way possible,
the same way I'd have said it. Dunno if it's a regional thing...

Matt :)
--
I miss Rage Against The Machine.


"J-Dogg" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
Still, starting a response with "lol" and calling your critic an idiot
isn't
the best way to encourage response, even with this motley crew.

"mark | r" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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no i ask for comments and judge the appropriateness of the responses, i
never give people what they ask for, just what works...

the sites in an early design stage and i am simply justifying the
process
that resulted in the sample design

mark

"Dan Butler" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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You ask for advice and then dis it, strange!



"mark | r" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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"cpg" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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maybe but it is undecided wether the site will expand to 100%
screen
widths,
which would make a gfx number impractical.

nah. You could have a great big graphic that is no wider than the
text
you currently have with a width=100% cell to the right of it. Try
a
bold condensed font.

your call. I'm just telling you what I tend to look for at
e-commerce
sites. It would annoy me if I had to search for the phone number.

cpg
lol you hardly gotta search for it, its the second item on screen
and
at
the
foot of every page.

thanks anyway dude!

mark










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Carol Ott
Well I must not be in their region, because I don't get it, either. :-)

Carol

"Matt Bostock" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
Geez... what's up with you two?

The guy wasn't calling cpg and idiot, just Mark thought, in his opinion,
that it wasn't too hard to find. Mark said that in the nicest way
possible,
the same way I'd have said it. Dunno if it's a regional thing...

Matt :)
--
I miss Rage Against The Machine.


Matt Bostock
Although it's not particularly bad, I was put off by something... and Hunter
hit the nail on the head...

It's the pastel colour scheme I don't like.

Otherwise, nicely organised, clear, and to the point :)

Matt
--
I miss Rage Against The Machine.


"Hunter Elliott" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE

"Jules Edouard Moustic" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Hi guys,

I just created a beta version of a website. I would appreciate if you
could
criticize my work, please *do* tell tell me what you don't like. I need
to
know. Suggestions and comments are welcome.
Screenshot is available here:
http://www.abahia.com/beta.version.auriance.jpg
Thanks,

I'm not real thrilled by the pastel color-scheme. To me, it projects a
very
passive feeling and does not project the strength and fortitude I would
want
in an ISP. I don't mind the java code in the background, but since all
those
colors are so pastel they kind of blur together for me. The orange
gradients
are "ok" - I could take them or leave them. Personally, I'd rather see you
pump up the colors to something more vibrant - I think just making the
existing color palette non-pastel wouldn't work either because then it'd
look too '80s to me. (I'd expect to see a guy in a mullett with a
seersucker
jacket, lots of buttons, and a skinny tie.)  :) From a layout POV, it's
not
bad .. although the menu buttons are a bit on the large side - you could
reduce those a tad.




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JP Kabala
I (now) also include similar verbiage in contracts (having been burned
once long ago) In some cases, the clients will request that their material
not be included
in your own promotional materials-- but will be happy to provide a reference
instead. Then you have to decide which is more important-- the contract or
portfolio piece.
In my mind, that's usually a no-brainer

(Keep in mind that a lot of what I do is often highly proprietary and for
corporate
internal use-- manuals, training materials, etc. Many companies don't even
like to admit
publicly they outsource that sort of thing. Folks tend to be a little more
protective of that
kind of stuff than they are of their website or ad materials)

"Jeff Fisher LogoMotives" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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CutterJon -

First of all, congratulations on the new job.  Secondly, sounds like
you need to move beyond this "pissing contest" with your old boss
because it seems he intends to push the issue.  I know a designer who
found himself in a similar situation and the old boss sued him just to
make the guy's life miserable.  As Alex said - don't post any of this
material online or you'll just be asking for trouble.

In most employment situations it's best to work with an employer for
the use of possible portfolio pieces instead of against them.  Many
will simply request that the company with whom you were employed be
adequately credited for the piece and your participation in the
project be clarified.  I can more than understand the concerns of a
former employer when it comes to the sharing of concepts and projects
not yet in place - especially if a designer is seeking work in the
local area with the same type of firms.

It's also wise for independent designers to clarify their rights when
it comes to using client projects for marketing/promotion purposes.
Years ago I found myself having to track down clients for permission
to use pieces as illustrations in books, magazines and the like.  Now
those issues are taken care of when I have the client sign my project
agreement.

Here's what my agreement states (do feel free to use, abuse, alter,
etc. for your own purposes):

"The designer retains personal rights to use the completed project and
any preliminary designs for the purpose of design competitions, future
publications on design, educational purposes and the marketing of the
designer's business. Where applicable the client will be given any
necessary credit for usage of the project elements."

- Jeff

Jeff Fisher
Engineer of Creative Identity

Jeff Fisher LogoMotives
http://www.jfisherlogomotives.com


JP Kabala
This is exactly what I meant by "genericized" ! LOL

"Tom" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
In this situation, I suggest you are careful, but you can be crafty :)  He
could always request a copy of your portfolio posing as a potential
somebody
or other.

You don't need to use the actual work you did for the company, or even use
any of the material...but there is nothing to stop you using the original,
and changing it enough to make it passable as different and therefore
nothing to do with him.  I know that might not work for everything, but I
have used that technique in the past.

Don't get stung :)

Cheers,
Tom


"CutterJon" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Hey there!
I just bagged a new job!

Get this: My outgoing employer asked me to give him a list of the
projects I want to take home to put in my portfolio for his approval.
(as if I haven't been regularly updating my portfolio with stuff I've
been working on.)
He says that some stuff that is "not in the public domain" he won't
allow me to use.
That includes basically all concept drawings and stuff that has not yet
been installed (we do mostly environmental design)

I was prepared for this-one guy got screwed out of just about all the
work he'd done here because he fell for this line.

I've always thought the law says that you can use whatever you've
worked on, unless you've signed an agreement, which I didn't.

Regardless, I already have taken home just about everything I've worked
on, so I'll have to come up with a fake list and play along with him.

Does anyone know what the (U.S.) laws are about using stuff like
concept drawings? Not that the law would stop me... what's he going to
do? Stalk former employee's websites for infringements?
--
CutterJon



JP Kabala
Some are a joy to deal with, some are playing dumb, and some you
just have to walk away from because they are either uneducable or
grossly undercapitalized.

Same as in the non-virtual world.

But there are a larger proportion of folks who have
never used a designer for anything in the CM pool
than might be, for example, in a typical chamber of
commerce mailing list of targeted businesses.


"J-Dogg" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
I've had the same experience, where the initial request is unrealistic,
only
to find the client very agreeable to change the scope and the price once
they have talked with the designer. The clients are not designers, and
usually don't know what's involved; in my experience, they've all (ok,
most)
been willing to learn.

"Mike Dion" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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In article <2RFib.747$[Email Removed]>, "J-Dogg"
<[Email Removed]> writes:

Guru is now IT Moonlighter, Creative Moonlighter's sister site.

Not really. IT Moonlighter existed before Guru went down. Moonlighter
just
bought out Guru.com and divided up the assets between their several
sites
(IT,
Creative, Office, and something else, I think).

I've bee a paying member since spring and my experience has been ho-hum
at
best. I've had numerous inquiries, but only one actual paying project.
As
others have posted, a majority of the projects have totally unrealistic
ideas,
especially when it comes to budgets. And, I wonder how many of the
projects
actually get awarded. At least on elance, you would be informed as to
who
the
employer chose for the contract. Based on that, in my experience 75% or
more of
those projects were never awarded. On Moonlighter, the project is only
marked
"closed" whether the employer actually picks a pro, cancels the listing,
or
just lets it expire. So there is no way to know how many of the projects
actually proceed.

Michael Dion
MDGraphics
www.mdgraphics.com



Carol Ott
I like the light blue, but I don't like the purple/pinks. The light blue is
a nice change from the usual overly-masculine red and blue colour schemes.

Carol

"Matt Bostock" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Although it's not particularly bad, I was put off by something... and
Hunter
hit the nail on the head...

It's the pastel colour scheme I don't like.

Otherwise, nicely organised, clear, and to the point :)

Matt
--
I miss Rage Against The Machine.


"Hunter Elliott" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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"Jules Edouard Moustic" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Hi guys,

I just created a beta version of a website. I would appreciate if you
could
criticize my work, please *do* tell tell me what you don't like. I
need
to
know. Suggestions and comments are welcome.
Screenshot is available here:
http://www.abahia.com/beta.version.auriance.jpg
Thanks,

I'm not real thrilled by the pastel color-scheme. To me, it projects a
very
passive feeling and does not project the strength and fortitude I would
want
in an ISP. I don't mind the java code in the background, but since all
those
colors are so pastel they kind of blur together for me. The orange
gradients
are "ok" - I could take them or leave them. Personally, I'd rather see
you
pump up the colors to something more vibrant - I think just making the
existing color palette non-pastel wouldn't work either because then it'd
look too '80s to me. (I'd expect to see a guy in a mullett with a
seersucker
jacket, lots of buttons, and a skinny tie.)  :) From a layout POV, it's
not
bad .. although the menu buttons are a bit on the large side - you could
reduce those a tad.




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OpinionMan.
Dan wrote:
QUOTE
Davide wrote:


Don't take attention to ppl in this NG that refuse to download Flash

content. They have unresonable prejudices against Flash Website.<<<

If it were only people in this newsgroup who had a problem with Flash, Flash
may have a future.

-- The site is too slow.
-- It takes too many clicks and too much waiting to see any content.
-- When content finally appears, there is a BAR across the graphic. When the
viewer clicks on the bar, a POP-UP window launches.

It is a poorly-designed site, and Flash just compounds the problem.


Yes Dan, we can agree.

You can put Van Gogh behind a curtain, but if that curtain's hard to
open I, personally, will move next door to the Monet exhibit.

OP
Repeat after OpinionMan folks, "Content IS the hero".
One more time with feeling. "Content IS the hero"!

Good job. Class dismissed.

Tomas Holm
In my experience food is not a good thing.
There are too many risks.
Like bringing wine to a sober alcoholic, chocolate to a person allergic to
nuts, chicken that has been out in the open to long... Taste is very
personal.

But I sense that this is a cultural thing. We really shouldnt eat more.

I think that if you should leave anything behind it has to be connected to
your case.

What about - a business card?

(I am assuming you want to be as serious as possible)

/Tomas


QUOTE
Food always wins. I've never seena situation where food wasn't welcome,
especially if its useful. We used to design bottle labels with our
portfolios on them, or even just a miniature gift card/booklet and tie
around a bottle of vanilla we made. (You can make a huge batch of vanilla,
and then give out tiny gift bottles with your mini-book tied around it like
a brochure.)

"Ben Woodward" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Got a meeting set up next week for a potential new client for a
corporate id package (Thank God! A new project that's not a website!)
and I was wondering what you guys suggest for a "leave-behind." I
usually put together a small franch-folded booklet type deal with
examples on the pages and client/project descriptions opposite the logos
Does anyone else have any suggestions for anything different? Anything
you've done before that's gottena  good response and/or result? Keep in
mind we're talking logotype presentation, and it's just for the
leave-behind (I've got a full-blown portfolio I bring to show in person).

Ben Woodward
Perpetua Interactive




--To contact me please mail to tomas dot holm at rodem dot se.--

Tomas Holm
QUOTE
You can put Van Gogh behind a curtain, but if that curtain's hard to
open I, personally, will move next door to the Monet exhibit.

Interesting. I would probably work harder to open the curtain now that it
has gotten my interest...

/Tomas

QUOTE
Dan wrote:
Davide wrote:


Don't take attention to ppl in this NG that refuse to download Flash

content. They have unresonable prejudices against Flash Website.<<<

If it were only people in this newsgroup who had a problem with Flash, Flash
may have a future.

-- The site is too slow.
-- It takes too many clicks and too much waiting to see any content.
-- When content finally appears, there is a BAR across the graphic. When the
viewer clicks on the bar, a POP-UP window launches.

It is a poorly-designed site, and Flash just compounds the problem.


Yes Dan, we can agree.

You can put Van Gogh behind a curtain, but if that curtain's hard to
open I, personally, will move next door to the Monet exhibit.

OP
Repeat after OpinionMan folks, "Content IS the hero".
One more time with feeling. "Content IS the hero"!

Good job. Class dismissed.


--To contact me please mail to tomas dot holm at rodem dot se.--

imaspy
QUOTE
anyone working in Melbourne OZ?

there's miss limelight and myself

and imaspy



....feels good to be remembered, thanks! :P


and yeah, why????

mark | r
yes if people take offence, THEY are taking offence, when none was made, i
can not be responsible for someone getting on their high horse about some
throw away comment.

mark

"Matt Bostock" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Geez... what's up with you two?

The guy wasn't calling cpg and idiot, just Mark thought, in his opinion,
that it wasn't too hard to find. Mark said that in the nicest way
possible,
the same way I'd have said it. Dunno if it's a regional thing...

Matt :)
--
I miss Rage Against The Machine.


"J-Dogg" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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Still, starting a response with "lol" and calling your critic an idiot
isn't
the best way to encourage response, even with this motley crew.

"mark | r" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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no i ask for comments and judge the appropriateness of the responses,
i
never give people what they ask for, just what works...

the sites in an early design stage and i am simply justifying the
process
that resulted in the sample design

mark

"Dan Butler" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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You ask for advice and then dis it, strange!



"mark | r" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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"cpg" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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maybe but it is undecided wether the site will expand to 100%
screen
widths,
which would make a gfx number impractical.

nah. You could have a great big graphic that is no wider than
the
text
you currently have with a width=100% cell to the right of it.
Try
a
bold condensed font.

your call. I'm just telling you what I tend to look for at
e-commerce
sites. It would annoy me if I had to search for the phone
number.

cpg
lol you hardly gotta search for it, its the second item on screen
and
at
the
foot of every page.

thanks anyway dude!

mark










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mark | r
yeah i just looked at dabs for the first time, my grid was 'appropriated'
from the old jungle site using the wayback machine on archive.org

i agree space is a worry and will endevor to keep my standards high

mark

"Tom" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
Its a nice design...

Ill try and be useful here...

Plain and simple is the key here, links should be consistent - the links
at
the bottom of the page are a mixed assortment of the ones at the top, I
would remove them and add them to the left hand menu.  All the navigation
would be in one place then, and would aid navigation.

Colours are excellent, contrast well and complement each other.

Today's deals / Special offers.... are they not the same thing?  Why
separate them?  Are the 4 boxes at the bottom special offers too?

Logo is unclear, would be cool if the logo used the cream in some way to
keep in touch with the colour scheme.

This site reminds me of www.dabs.com , take a look and get some ideas,
they
have redone their site and done a good job of it too.

Keep in mind functionality over appearance.

Cheers,
Tom


"mark | r" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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am designing an ecommerce system and wonder is there are any obvious
flaws
in the design of this site?

http://nemark.neue.co.uk/nemark.htm

the domain just became active, if you have difficulties it may still be
propagating for you.

mark





mark | r
use a flash or ppt presentation,a nd leave the CDROM, it will demonstrate
how cuttng edge you are,

mark

"Ben Woodward" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE
Got a meeting set up next week for a potential new client for a
corporate id package (Thank God! A new project that's not a website!)
and I was wondering what you guys suggest for a "leave-behind." I
usually put together a small franch-folded booklet type deal with
examples on the pages and client/project descriptions opposite the logos
Does anyone else have any suggestions for anything different? Anything
you've done before that's gottena  good response and/or result? Keep in
mind we're talking logotype presentation, and it's just for the
leave-behind (I've got a full-blown portfolio I bring to show in person).

Ben Woodward
Perpetua Interactive


Jeff Fisher LogoMotives
Ihor -

You posted: "Lately, the non-profit organizations pays me for my time
by check and I then write a check for the same amount as a donation.
It increases my income tax a little but the donation is tax
deductible."


Here in Portland I would not only be donating my time in that case,
but getting to pay for the privilege of donating my time. In addition
to paying Federal tax on what would be considered earnings - for
"income" passing through my business account - I would get the
pleasure of also paying state income tax, our new county income tax,
our self-employment tax and a portion of my annual business license
(which is based on income). In addition, as I think Carol mentioned,
in some cases only a percentage of a donation to a nonprofit is
legally tax deductible. Doesn't sound like much of a deal to me - or
my accountant - and I certainly wouldn't want to get audited by the
IRS in the future.

- Jeff



Jeff Fisher
Engineer of Creative Identity

Jeff Fisher LogoMotives
http://www.jfisherlogomotives.com

OpinionMan.
Tomas Holm wrote:
QUOTE
You can put Van Gogh behind a curtain, but if that curtain's hard to
open I, personally, will move next door to the Monet exhibit.


Interesting. I would probably work harder to open the curtain now that it
has gotten my interest...


Forget what you know is behind that curtain. Could just be my son's
finger paintings.

O

Davide Montellanico
"OpinionMan." <[Email Removed]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE
Tomas Holm wrote:
You can put Van Gogh behind a curtain, but if that curtain's hard to
open I, personally, will move next door to the Monet exhibit.


Interesting. I would probably work harder to open the curtain now that
it
has gotten my interest...


Forget what you know is behind that curtain. Could just be my son's
finger paintings.

O


May be, may be not !?

--
Davide

OpinionMan.
Davide Montellanico wrote:

QUOTE
Forget what you know is behind that curtain. Could just be my son's
finger paintings.

O



May be, may be not !?

--
Davide



Monty Hall would have loved you.

OPnMn

Davide Montellanico
"OpinionMan." <[Email Removed]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE
Davide Montellanico wrote:

Forget what you know is behind that curtain. Could just be my son's
finger paintings.

O



May be, may be not !?

--
Davide



Monty Hall would have loved you.

OPnMn



May be, may be not. 8-)

--
Davide Montellanico

Martha J. Retallick
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:27:22 GMT, "127.0.0.1"
<[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
is anyone a member of AIGA?

would you recommend joining them?

AIGA is starting a chapter here in Tucson, and I plan to check it out.
I will give this group a report.

Martha Retallick

Grow your design business with direct mail postcards!
It's easy, affordable, and FUN! Learn how at:
http://www.PostcardMarketingSecrets.com

iforte
I guess I need to read the DMCA. I thought that it was okay to have copies
of CD's that you already own. i.e. You can make a compilation of all your
favorite songs from CD's that you own and burn it for yourself.

IMHO CDs are overpriced. I think if they were less than $10, the record
companies would sell more and reap in the profits. Remember casette tapes?
They were priced much lower.

Ann


QUOTE
the CD. I think the way people track purchases is outdated and needs to be
brought into the 21st century, so I can download music I already own.


Matt Bostock
I have a 600... but I doubt it'd be worth the postage costs :D

Matt
--
I miss Rage Against The Machine.


"Carol Ott" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
I have one leftover cartridge from my old printer -- first person who
e-mails me can have it -- it's a colour cartridge....fits the following
Epson Stylus printers:

400 / 600 / 600Q / 800 / 800N / 850 / 850N / 1520

E-mail me your name and address, and I'll put it in the post first thing
Tuesday AM.

Carol
-------------
http://www.csottdesign.com
http://www.csott.com




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Gem
QUOTE
Stan
At my age "rock on" means we got the rocking chair fixed

lol!
Stan, I am compiling a book of witticisms, can I use this??? :) Total credit to
you, of course.

--
Gem

Gem
QUOTE
and I was wondering what you guys suggest for a "leave-behind."

I like to 'leave behind' my purse with a few c-notes in it.

not that it's a bribe or anything.....

:)
--
Gem

Carol Ott
Too late. Someone actually FOLLOWED the directions and e-mailed me. HA!
:-)

Carol

"Matt Bostock" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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I have a 600... but I doubt it'd be worth the postage costs :D

Matt
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"Carol Ott" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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I have one leftover cartridge from my old printer -- first person who
e-mails me can have it -- it's a colour cartridge....fits the following
Epson Stylus printers:

400 / 600 / 600Q / 800 / 800N / 850 / 850N / 1520

E-mail me your name and address, and I'll put it in the post first thing
Tuesday AM.

Carol
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Muzafar Md Yusof
I agree totally that music CDs are overpriced.

Popular music is about mass appeal - if the price of the CD goes down
more people will buy it even if it is out of curiosity coz its cheap
enough. The question how greedy is RIAA and all the music mogul wanna be
actually? Aren't they fat enough? Boo hoo, so sorry the Music Industry
is experiencing a CD sales slump. . .geez I wonder why????

I believe is the people is given a fair chance, fair play and breathing
space to adjust to a reasonable solution, we all will obviously play the
legal way 90%, I can't vouch for a 100% legal but it is better than say
30-50%. . .

Personally I only buy original CDs of only my favoirite artistes coz I
believe in their work enough to buy the original, the rest, I just
cactchit on the radio or in clubs or something.

For softwares, I only buy games and hates pirated ones coz they screwed
up my system and for design stuff I only use it for work at the office,
so all legal stuffs.




Mezza




iforte wrote:
QUOTE
I guess I need to read the DMCA. I thought that it was okay to have copies
of CD's that you already own. i.e. You can make a compilation of all your
favorite songs from CD's that you own and burn it for yourself.

IMHO CDs are overpriced. I think if they were less than $10, the record
companies would sell more and reap in the profits. Remember casette tapes?
They were priced much lower.

Ann



the CD. I think the way people track purchases is outdated and needs to be
brought into the 21st century, so I can download music I already own.






woom
and i in perth....
;->
niko

"imaspy >" <[Email Removed]<spam> a crit dans le message de
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anyone working in Melbourne OZ?

there's miss limelight and myself

and imaspy



...feels good to be remembered, thanks! :P


and yeah, why????



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Sebastian
Hi,

I'm not sure whether or not you have fixed your table in the mean
time - right now it looks as if all extra space in "pleatherpants.htm"
is below the last link (in Netscape) and I guess that's what you wanted?
An easy trick to work around those problems is to use an extra table
(which holds the links) inside the left cell (which holds the lilac
background). That way the lilac background will grow when you add tall
pictures to the right cell, but the menu will stay where it is.

And since we're talking about it: Why not try to set the main table
(which holds menu and content) to 100% hight? That way you won't have
the orange background of variable size on your pages and they'll look
more... consistent. Just an idea...8)

________________________
Sebastian

Luna wrote:
QUOTE
Ok, here are two pages from my photos section of my website.

http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick/photos/mementos.html
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick/photo...atherpants.html

The problem I'm having is with the links on the left.  On the mementos
page, that's how I want them to look.  But when I have a taller photo like
on the pleather pants page, the extra height is getting distributed evenly
throughout the rows with the links.  I would like for all the extra space
to be after the last link in the last row, but setting the cell heights to
1 or 0 or 1% for the top 5 rows does not do squat. I'm looking at it in IE
on a Mac, is this strictly an IE thing or a Mac thing, or is this a general
html thing?  Does anyone know a trick that will get it to do what I want?


Sebastian
Hi Chris,

very nice site! I guess it takes a little while to load on slowish
connections, but I think that's bearable. As J-Dogg said, I also had a
very hard time finding the menu - you should really change that! I was
just about to leave until I found it sort of by accident...;) Other than
that it looks nice - nice work on the web sites you did, as well!

___________________
Sebastian


Chris wrote:
QUOTE
Just finished updating my portfolio. Any comments, suggestions,
praises, critiques welcome. www.cmallen.net


Mr. Tawny the talking tiger
I am pretty sure that everyone here is smart enough to realize this is bogus
and a virus, but if not consider yourself warned.

Franky
In article <[Email Removed]>,
"Angela M. Cable" <[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
Gary wrote:

Yo Fred and Angela,

Thanks for the reviews of the Canon 300D Rebel. I have a Canon F1 that I
have enjoyed for 20 years and the Rebel is the first digital camera that
gets my attention. Too bad my FD lenses won't work! Now if I could just
get one my pesky clients to sign off on one of those big projects they
keep promising...

Probably, if you get the digital Rebel with a lens, it'll do you for
quite some time before you think you need to buy another lens. If you
think you might want to replace your F1 with a newer film body in the
EOS line, buy just the digital body and then get a lens separately. The
lens that comes with the digital Rebel in that package is an "EF-S" and
is designed specifically for digitals and won't work on the film bodies.
There's a spec sheet online at Canon for the Digital Rebel:
http://www.canoneos.com/digitalrebel/index.html
I think Canon is going to make truckloads of money off this thing :-)

I am afraid that the F1/FD lens combo is ready for retirement. However,
the Canon FD lenses are still some of the best lenses ever developed for
35 mm photography. I think the time has come for making a wholesale
switch to digital, so I am not going to worry about preserving my legacy
hardware.

AEROSOL_TEKNEEK
What exactly is AIGA???

iehsmith
Check it out for yourself: http://aiga.org/

QUOTE
From: [Email Removed] (AEROSOL_TEKNEEK)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups: alt.design.graphics
Date: 16 Oct 2003 09:57:52 -0700
Subject: Re: AIGA

What exactly is AIGA???


Deep Freud Moors
Mr. Tawny the talking tiger <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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QUOTE
I am pretty sure that everyone here is smart enough to realize this is
bogus
and a virus, but if not consider yourself warned.

I ran it on windows 98, and all of a sudden it stopped crashing. Perhaps
both viruses cancelled each other out.
---
DFM

Chris
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:26:38 +0200, Sebastian <[Email Removed]>
wrote:

QUOTE
Hi Chris,

very nice site! I guess it takes a little while to load on slowish
connections, but I think that's bearable. As J-Dogg said, I also had a
very hard time finding the menu - you should really change that! I was
just about to leave until I found it sort of by accident...;) Other than
that it looks nice - nice work on the web sites you did, as well!

Thx for the tip.

I went ahead and made the arrow pulsate a bit until you click it for
the first time. Shouldn't be hard to overlook now.

Tomas Holm
ROTFL!

/Tomas

QUOTE
Mr. Tawny the talking tiger <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:Jlzjb.9701$[Email Removed]...
I am pretty sure that everyone here is smart enough to realize this is
bogus
and a virus, but if not consider yourself warned.

I ran it on windows 98, and all of a sudden it stopped crashing. Perhaps
both viruses cancelled each other out.
---
DFM



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Adam Berry
very nice. very clean and easy to read - to the point that i actually read
through the whole site.

i even changed music a couple of times. nice touch.


"Chris" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:26:38 +0200, Sebastian <[Email Removed]
wrote:

Hi Chris,

very nice site! I guess it takes a little while to load on slowish
connections, but I think that's bearable. As J-Dogg said, I also had a
very hard time finding the menu - you should really change that! I was
just about to leave until I found it sort of by accident...;) Other than
that it looks nice - nice work on the web sites you did, as well!

Thx for the tip.

I went ahead and made the arrow pulsate a bit until you click it for
the first time. Shouldn't be hard to overlook now.


Farlo
"Webmaster" <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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X-Complaints-To: [Email Removed]

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Farlo, the Urban Fey Dragon

The Devil's Advocate
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 04:55:39 GMT, "Webmaster"
<[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
Prove this wrong!!!

I don't know about you, but I get tired of postal lottery, "make
$60000 in 60 days" type messages appearing in my favorite newsgroups.
There are "claims" of people making all this money, but nothing to
back it up or any real proof.

Get lost.

Tom
nice style, although some of the transitions look much better than others,
Id try and keep them to the same complexity..

e.g. Details section, the guy comes in from the left, but other sections
have much more interesting intros.

Cheers,
Tom

"Brad" <(nospam;)[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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You looked. Okay since your here, check out my flash and critique it if
you
feel like it. I used some of the advice last time. Also included, my first
logo. I can't wait for the logo disection. One thing I can say, it (logo)
looks the same (vector) at any size. The "motion design" button is there
until I decide what it should do. Last, but not least, the portfolio needs
more work to show...I'll get that when this looks right.

http://www.bradhorner.com  aprox 128 KB initial dnload



Tom
I like the page, loaded quickly and no errors on IE6 WinXP with ADSL.

Only problem, where to click on the screen? There was no cursor change or
obvious enter button. I got the idea and just clicked on the image but you
should relaly change that.

Im not a fan of intro pages generally, so perhaps you could load come
content on that page to make it worth the bandwidth, perhaps some sort of
(useable) navigation.

Cheers,
Tom

"FREAKBROTHERS.TV" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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is this allowable/ interactive design/interface ?
please tell me for example or you could point your way to the Movies
in the site...
Hope to hear some comments!

theURL: www.freakbrothers.tv

thanx,

Latcho




Tom
nice and simple, and it works.

Bit heavy tho for what it is, could do with a dose of slimming pills :)

Cheers,
Tom

"derek dunbar" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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www.derekdunbar.co.uk
please send any comments by email


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Anonymous
Do your project reversed - black on white. Save on floppy as jpg or other graphic format.
Take to Kinkos. Have print done in "negative". Use cheap photocopier (5 cents or so) to
make your copies.




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Carol Ott
Wow! That *is* a good deal. Peachtree is good accounting software -- I've
been looking to purchase it.

Carol

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I saw this posted in another forum, but thought it was a pretty good
deal...hope someone in one of the groups can use a free copy.  Its a $200
accounting software package that is free, after rebates, from OfficeMax.


http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/pro...YQuZEytjFWsqoIA

My girlfriend just paid $250 for Peachtree somewhere else, a few months
ago.
:-(


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Rastin Mehr
Well that's funny too :)

We should all email him and tell him his flash sucks. Maybe that finally
makes him feel depressed!!!

Rastin


QUOTE
Hi!

You'll be amazed! I told the webmaster I didn't find his animation very
nice, this is what he replied.
V.

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Your Flash animation is not very nice :)

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"The Devil's Advocate" <[Email Removed]> escreveu na mensagem
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Just joking, but sites like this sometimes make me think so:

http://www.henryfondatheater.com/mbt.htm

Ugh...ghastly. What's scary is that the guy that designed it probably
thinks he did a pretty good job.





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iforte
Peachtree had the same deal last year. I bought a brand new shrink wrapped
copy on ebay from someone for $20. It was easier that dealing with the
rebates.

Ann


"Tina - AffordableHOST.com" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
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I saw this posted in another forum, but thought it was a pretty good
deal...hope someone in one of the groups can use a free copy.  Its a $200
accounting software package that is free, after rebates, from OfficeMax.


http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/pro...prodBlockOID=53

7126840&siteID=HNti5DTt3TI-ZpkDfRQYQuZEytjFWsqoIA
QUOTE

My girlfriend just paid $250 for Peachtree somewhere else, a few months
ago.
:-(


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