Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE |
Rebecca Ore <[Email Removed]> wrote: Pity you didn't read the Spam FAQ before spamming. Remember the days when the trolls weren't always blithering idiots? Whatever happened to that? |
QUOTE |
Basically, you've confessed... |
QUOTE |
Arguing with me is irrelevant. |
QUOTE |
You should have talked to Supernews. |
QUOTE |
If you were being filtered, you could have discussed it with Supernews and your ISP. |
QUOTE |
If you were being forged, you could file abuse reports with the forgers' ISP. |
QUOTE |
You may not know the definition of spam. ArtistMike always had the option of complaining if people were forging him... Complain to whom? Supernews? hahahahaha. You could have complained to the forger's isps. Supernews would have helped you,... |
QUOTE |
Plus, I believe in people being able to write whatever they wish in newsgroups so I am not about to cry to a news host about someone spoofing me. Perhaps you're paying them to spam your url? Stranger things have happened. |
QUOTE |
If you are being joe-jobbed, it's stupid to allow that to continue because people will question why people are spamming this url. |
QUOTE |
We can't tell if you're paying these people to spam for you or not unless you do something to stop it. |
QUOTE |
I take it to the newsgroup and have it out with them there. I support FREE SPEECH in newsgroups. Even to the point of people writing very silly things that most people would cry and whine about. I do not. Oh, yeah, you just whine about being filtered for spamming. |
QUOTE |
You are spamming if the posts are made *only* to get hits to your site. |
QUOTE |
http://www.artistmike.com The only reason I can do it, is because they don't have a strangle hold on me. |
QUOTE |
It makes no difference if you believe me or not. The fact that Supernews censors people based upon fake messages is a fact. That fact will spread and some people will not want to deal with such a business. If there becomes a time that one person decides not to use Supernews because they censors people based upon forged messages, then I have gotten what I desired. |
QUOTE |
I am willing to pay the price of lost business to clients that have thin skin and can't take an opinion that might offended them. I don't need or want such clients. |
QUOTE |
Clear enough for you? |
QUOTE |
Oh, I would never think that Nicky Scala would stoop so low as to spam using my email and to post from Astraweb. For shame...to even suggest such a thing. He only posted and faked every person in that newsgroup for months on end and finally lost his account. But he would never spoof me! in article [Email Removed], Lord Pander at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 7:56 PM: Can we say O-M-N-O-M-A-N for example. LP "Jackie" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:BC9F4C11.F3336%[Email Removed]... in article 29$[Email Removed], T D O Y S at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 6:29 PM: Asshole-User AlwaysINCorrect <[Email Removed]> SCREAMED for weeks: Artist Mike ... His posts are filtered because he's a spammer. Got any evidence of that? Just a bit that you gave us, SPAMMER Mike Krispy.. ":^) =?ISO-8859-1?B?rg==?=" <[Email Removed] ""Mike C."" <[Email Removed] "Advocate" <[Email Removed] "Al Dente" <[Email Removed] "Fred" <[Email Removed] "Mike C." <"Mike C." [Email Removed] "Mike C." <[Email Removed] "Mike" <[Email Removed] "Mike..." <[Email Removed] "The Real Mike C." <[Email Removed] MC <[Email Removed] Mike <[Email Removed] Mike C <[Email Removed] Mike C. <[Email Removed] Mike Christy <[Email Removed] [Email Removed] More authors are using this email than can be displayed. The list is truncated... hahahahaha Got any evidence that "MIke" is doing the spamming? Or is it just silly people using his email address? hahahahaha. |
QUOTE |
Lord Pander <[Email Removed]> wrote: I think mike is a real prick, and I still think he is correct, as you have done it to me as well. What for, top-posting? Perhaps you could share how you got un-blocked? -- Jeremy | [Email Removed] |
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes: in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 8:25 PM: "Lord Pander" <[Email Removed]> writes: You mean this url? http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore Are you then a SPAMMER? I think so. LP I'm *not* suggesting that the answer to everyone's problems can be found by paying me for it, and I'm not posting the url as an answer to questions asked here. The reason you posted the url is irrelevant. You posted it, it's spam. Knock it off. hahahahaha. I believe this was explained to you. URLs in sigs are okay as long as the post isn't make simply to get the url in front of the readers. If you're stupid, there's nothing further than could be done to help you. If you wanted to fix the problem with Supernews, the way to do that was to work with your ISP and Supernews. If Supernews abuse advised you to not do something, then you had two choices. Not do that, or get another NSP account. Supernews and your ISP have a contract. I doubt that the contract allows you to post just anything you want. Spammers lie. Spammers are stupid. |
QUOTE |
-- Rebecca Ore http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore |
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes: If you can't rebut the issue, discredit the participant. How cute, Rebecca. No wonder you are not a news host any longer. Well, there was an edu admin in Oregon who path aliased me because I wouldn't boot one of my users 36 hours before the server was going away completely. Do you like it being done to you? Basically, you've confessed to making posts that I consider spam and that you don't consider spam. Arguing with me is irrelevant. You should have talked to Supernews. If they told you there was no block on your posts, then you could have posted and had a friend on the server (Uni) see if the post showed up. If the post didn't show up, then you could work with your ISP and with Supernews to find out what happened. If you were being filtered, you could have discussed it with Supernews and your ISP. If you were being forged, you could file abuse reports with the forgers' ISP. |
QUOTE |
(snip) You may not know the definition of spam. ArtistMike always had the option of complaining if people were forging him... Complain to whom? Supernews? hahahahaha. You could have complained to the forger's isps. Supernews would have helped you, if you're not lying about those posts all being forgeries. Plus, I believe in people being able to write whatever they wish in newsgroups so I am not about to cry to a news host about someone spoofing me. Perhaps you're paying them to spam your url? Stranger things have happened. If you are being joe-jobbed, it's stupid to allow that to continue because people will question why people are spamming this url. If they're spoofing your address, that's one thing. If they're forging it, that's another thing. We can't tell if you're paying these people to spam for you or not unless you do something to stop it. I take it to the newsgroup and have it out with them there. I support FREE SPEECH in newsgroups. Even to the point of people writing very silly things that most people would cry and whine about. I do not. Oh, yeah, you just whine about being filtered for spamming. -- Rebecca Ore http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Demetrius Zeluff at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 11:01 AM: Supernews is not the first NSP to block people who have spammed a website in a sig. First or last, makes no difference. It is a made up rule to fit the situation. |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 9:03 PM: Basically, you've confessed... Basically you are wrong. ":^) Arguing with me is irrelevant. But fun. ":^) You should have talked to Supernews. Done a long time ago. They blew me off. So now it is all public. ":^) If you were being filtered, you could have discussed it with Supernews and your ISP. Already been done. Supernews wrote that they did not block me. That was a lie obviously. |
QUOTE |
If you were being forged, you could file abuse reports with the forgers' ISP. Not interested in spending my time doing that. You may not know the definition of spam. ArtistMike always had the option of complaining if people were forging him... Complain to whom? Supernews? hahahahaha. You could have complained to the forger's isps. Supernews would have helped you,... I don't care what silly people do in newsgroups. Spaming is not an issue I care about unless it is some news host blocking me for it -- when I have not done it. Plus, I believe in people being able to write whatever they wish in newsgroups so I am not about to cry to a news host about someone spoofing me. Perhaps you're paying them to spam your url? Stranger things have happened. Nope. Silly people do all kinds of silly things and using my email as a return address is one of them. If you are being joe-jobbed, it's stupid to allow that to continue because people will question why people are spamming this url. I don't care what they do. Not worth my time to fuss about what goofballs do in newsgroups. We can't tell if you're paying these people to spam for you or not unless you do something to stop it. So I am guilty until I prove I am not. hahahaha. I take it to the newsgroup and have it out with them there. I support FREE SPEECH in newsgroups. Even to the point of people writing very silly things that most people would cry and whine about. I do not. Oh, yeah, you just whine about being filtered for spamming. I brought up the subject after I was blown off by Supernews. One of the options available to any person that deals with a news provider is to write about the problem in a public newsgroup. I have chosen to do just that. ":^) |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 8:46 PM: You are spamming if the posts are made *only* to get hits to your site. My motivation is not for you to decide. It is not for Supernews to decide. I don't submit my motivations for their, or your ok. |
QUOTE |
Rebecca Ore <[Email Removed]> wrote: Pity you didn't read the Spam FAQ before spamming. Remember the days when the trolls weren't always blithering idiots? Whatever happened to that? |
QUOTE |
They do not need proof, they just sit there and play God all day. LP |
QUOTE |
So now it is all public. ":^) |
QUOTE |
Already been done. Supernews wrote that they did not block me. That was a lie obviously. |
QUOTE |
I don't care what silly people do in newsgroups. Spaming is not an issue I care about unless it is some news host blocking me for it -- when I have not done it. |
QUOTE |
Oh, yeah, you just whine about being filtered for spamming. I brought up the subject after I was blown off by Supernews. One of the options available to any person that deals with a news provider is to write about the problem in a public newsgroup. I have chosen to do just that. ":^) |
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FEB09.F34ED%[Email Removed]: in article [Email Removed], Demetrius Zeluff at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 2:46 AM: Maybe your constant nym-shifting had something to do with it? You poor baby... are you getting confused? hahaha. Do you deny nym shifting? (Don't bother answering, you're in my kill file.) |
QUOTE |
Rebecca Ore <[Email Removed]> wrote: Pity you didn't read the Spam FAQ before spamming. Remember the days when the trolls weren't always blithering idiots? Whatever happened to that? Spinning your wheels in the mud in a company vehicle ain't pretty. |
QUOTE |
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 6:38 AM: So if I read that correct no one should do business with ARTISTMIKE? Yep. ":^) |
QUOTE |
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 6:50 AM: I applaud Supernews for filtering ArtistMike. I see no reason to care what you think. You got one reason I should care what you think? hahahaha. |
QUOTE |
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 6:52 AM: Oh I refute your future refutation!!!!!!1!!!!! hahahaha. You're funny. ":^) |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], (akula) at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 7:05 AM: Of course, one could marvel at the number of messages a single spammer has generated in this newsgroup since he began his tirade, and why people continue to reply after the 4th time he's spouted the exact same nonsense in reply to reasonable explanations of why he's being filtered. He has no credibility and I doubt anyone considering Supernews has been dissuaded from subscribing. The game continues because silly people like you can't control themselves and just have to make one more comment. So naturally the game goes on. ":^) |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Demetrius Zeluff at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 7:09 AM: "Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FEB09.F34ED%[Email Removed]: in article [Email Removed], Demetrius Zeluff at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 2:46 AM: Maybe your constant nym-shifting had something to do with it? You poor baby... are you getting confused? hahaha. Do you deny nym shifting? Your questions are not my responsibility. ":^) |
QUOTE |
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 7:14 AM: "Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FEE76.F350E% [Email Removed]: in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 6:44 AM: What a PATHETIC loser!!!!!!!!!! I am amused by your pain. I am amused... Well, then I guess we both are having a good time. I feel no guilt at you choosing to continue to suffer. ":^) |
QUOTE |
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 7:11 AM: "Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FEC39.F3501% [Email Removed]: in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 6:26 AM: AlwaysCorrect <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9F594C.F33CD%[Email Removed]: in article [Email Removed], Uni at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 7:39 PM: Not a single Supernews customer MAY post Artist Mike's URL. What, are we now ALL spammers? Evidence, attached. Note that it states "spammed", not harassed, not upset, not abused, not nickname changing, but "spammed". :-) Uni http://www.artistmike.com The only reason I can do it, is because they don't have a strangle hold on me. Mike you are a pathetic spammer Is there some reason I should care what you think? Nope. Good, then you are dismissed. ":^) |
QUOTE |
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 7:06 AM: I applaud Supernews in doing a fine job of ridding the usenet of scum like you. Little news for you... I am still on Usenet. hahaha. |
QUOTE |
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 7:09 AM: Plus it fun to make you jump up and down... Your fantasies are amusing, but not very realistic. ":^) |
QUOTE |
in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 7:19 AM: "Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in news:BC9FEF16.F350F% [Email Removed]: in article [email protected], Poik at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/12/2004 6:46 AM: The proof is out there, you just cannot take the truth. You are going to have to work on that Jack Nicolson impression. hahahaha. You avoid... How I choose to respond to your silly messages is not for you to decide. ":^) So Mike you claim that Supernews filters you based upon forgeries. Yet the forgeries came after your being filtered. So how do you reconcile those to facts? Someone else made the forgeries and posted them through Supernews, after I was blocked. |
QUOTE |
Supernews blocks people just because they don't like your "behavior" in a newsgroup. I have learned all this from reading this thread. |
QUOTE |
If Supernews abuse advised you to not do something, then you had two choices. Not do that, or get another NSP account. |
QUOTE |
Supernews and your ISP have a contract. I doubt that the contract allows you to post just anything you want. |
QUOTE |
Spammers lie. Spammers are stupid. |
QUOTE |
Christy has been spam-trolling with his "Hire an artist" line for years on graphics groups. |
QUOTE |
By your own admission, you've posted just your url on a number of occasions as a reply to a post. |
QUOTE |
I think you're lying ... |
QUOTE |
Christy wrote: It makes no difference if you believe me or not. The fact that Supernews censors people based upon fake messages is a fact. That fact will spread and some people will not want to deal with such a business. If there becomes a time that one person decides not to use Supernews because they censors people based upon forged messages, then I have gotten what I desired. Word is spreading about your paranoid antics Christy... |
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:<BC9EEE21.F329B%[Email Removed]>... I am willing to pay the price of lost business to clients that have thin skin and can't take an opinion that might offended them. I don't need or want such clients. Ha, you need all the clients you can get. |
QUOTE |
I brought up the subject after I was blown off by Supernews. One of the options available to any person that deals with a news provider is to write about the problem in a public newsgroup. I have chosen to do just that. ":^) In the process you have just made Supernews look better and you look |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Uni at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 7:39 PM: Not a single Supernews customer MAY post Artist Mike's URL. What, are we now ALL spammers? Evidence, attached. Note that it states "spammed", not harassed, not upset, not abused, not nickname changing, but "spammed". :-) Uni http://www.artistmike.com The only reason I can do it, is because they don't have a strangle hold on me. Mike you are a pathetic spammer and Uni is just pathetic. |
QUOTE |
Your fantasies about what I need are irrelevant. |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 7:42 PM: Jackie <[Email Removed]> wrote: Got any evidence that "MIke" is doing the spamming? Or is it just silly people using his email address? It's a vast conspiracy against you, is it? No, it is just silly people like you, that don't like my attitude and use my email as a return address when they do spam. You know damn well that people do that. Like have accounts all over the nation so that I can post from different parts of the US. Real smart Jeremy. Well, I can certainly see how you'd end up with enemies, I'll grant you that much. Supernews being another dupe or another enemy? |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 8:00 PM: Jackie <[Email Removed]> writes: in article 29$[Email Removed], T D O Y S at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 6:29 PM: Asshole-User AlwaysINCorrect <[Email Removed]> SCREAMED for weeks: Artist Mike ... His posts are filtered because he's a spammer. Got any evidence of that? Just a bit that you gave us, SPAMMER Mike Krispy.. ":^) =?ISO-8859-1?B?rg==?=" <[Email Removed] ""Mike C."" <[Email Removed] "Advocate" <[Email Removed] "Al Dente" <[Email Removed] "Fred" <[Email Removed] "Mike C." <"Mike C." [Email Removed] "Mike C." <[Email Removed] "Mike" <[Email Removed] "Mike..." <[Email Removed] "The Real Mike C." <[Email Removed] MC <[Email Removed] Mike <[Email Removed] Mike C <[Email Removed] Mike C. <[Email Removed] Mike Christy <[Email Removed] [Email Removed] More authors are using this email than can be displayed. The list is truncated... hahahahaha Got any evidence that "MIke" is doing the spamming? Or is it just silly people using his email address? hahahahaha. If it's not Mike using his address, those are out and out forgeries and Mike has grounds to ask for the people doing this to be terminated by their ISPs or NSPs. Or I don't care, and I don't want to waste my time bothering about it. If silly goofballs want to spam using my email I am not going to do battle with each and every one of them to make them stop. Waste of my time. I would rather use my time as I wish and not be coerced into dealing with silly people that want to spam using my email. So YOU ArtistMike spam by Usenet and whine about spam by email. What a |
QUOTE |
If Mike choses not to do this, and if the posting host is astraweb and the User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022, then I'm inclined to believe that Mike lies like a spammer. Your inclinations are irrelevant. I refute you!!!!1!!!!! |
QUOTE |
Artist Mike is a trolling, nym-shifting, net-abusing spamming fuckwit. That's why his posts are filtered. Is that better? |
QUOTE |
Can we say O-M-N-O-M-A-N for example. LP "Jackie" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:BC9F4C11.F3336%[Email Removed]... in article 29$[Email Removed], T D O Y S at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 6:29 PM: Asshole-User AlwaysINCorrect <[Email Removed]> SCREAMED for weeks: Artist Mike ... His posts are filtered because he's a spammer. Got any evidence of that? Just a bit that you gave us, SPAMMER Mike Krispy.. ":^) =?ISO-8859-1?B?rg==?=" <[Email Removed] ""Mike C."" <[Email Removed] "Advocate" <[Email Removed] "Al Dente" <[Email Removed] "Fred" <[Email Removed] "Mike C." <"Mike C." [Email Removed] "Mike C." <[Email Removed] "Mike" <[Email Removed] "Mike..." <[Email Removed] "The Real Mike C." <[Email Removed] MC <[Email Removed] Mike <[Email Removed] Mike C <[Email Removed] Mike C. <[Email Removed] Mike Christy <[Email Removed] [Email Removed] More authors are using this email than can be displayed. The list is truncated... hahahahaha Got any evidence that "MIke" is doing the spamming? Or is it just silly people using his email address? hahahahaha. |
QUOTE |
"Mike..." <[Email Removed]> writes: in article [Email Removed], Rebecca Ore at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 8:46 PM: You are spamming if the posts are made *only* to get hits to your site. My motivation is not for you to decide. It is not for Supernews to decide. I don't submit my motivations for their, or your ok. your motivations don't matter. |
QUOTE |
Oh, I would never think that Nicky Scala would stoop so low as to spam using my email and to post from Astraweb. For shame...to even suggest such a thing. He only posted and faked every person in that newsgroup for months on end and finally lost his account. But he would never spoof me! No he did not have too, you were doing it yourself as a test of your |
QUOTE |
Saying that Supernews has no right to block his posts just because he's posting his url and self promotional material in the body of replies also sounds like a defense of spamming. |
QUOTE |
Many spam people cry about my spam messages Some spam call them spam My spam messages are not spam. I did not spam post that spam I Spam and Spam I am Spam Mike * Spam Logo Spam Design * Put some spam fun in your next spam logo! Spam Site at: http://www.spamartistmike.com/spam/spam/mo...mmamm?spam.html |
QUOTE |
Mike hasn't denied... |
QUOTE |
In article <BC9EBE3B.F30DC%[Email Removed]>, [Email Removed] says... in article [Email Removed], Zimphire at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 8:30 AM: So how many accounts are you using mikee? Can you count past 5? need some help answering his question, huh? |
QUOTE |
"Willem" <gaatjenietaan@notvalid@ac> writes: I don't know about that. I had heard things already and when the url to this group was posted someplace else, I read about this case. Dutch posters are very vocal and Demon outsources to you. Word gets round and I must say this doesn't look good. I suspect that you're not going to be happy with Supernews. |
QUOTE |
in article [Email Removed], reverend maxwell snort at [Email Removed] wrote on 04/11/2004 3:22 PM: need some help answering his question, huh? Your education is not anyone's responsibility but your own. Answer your own questions. |
QUOTE |
Maybe your constant nym-shifting had something to do with it? |