Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote:
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Did Supernews ever follow you from supernews.general, to another newsgroup, to defend their disciplinary actions? They did with me. |
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Supernews Danhiel seems to feel that deleting (by snipping) what other people write is not harmful, at all: |
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Many of their users post filth, profanity and such, and Supernews just turns their heads, even though it is a direct violation of their Terms of Service. |
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in article [Email Removed], Far Canal at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 10:36 PM: it's dribbling piss down it's legs. Is that a problem for you? |
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Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote: Did Supernews ever follow you from supernews.general, to another newsgroup, to defend their disciplinary actions? They did with me. You followed me here, not the other way around. I regret that; I should have known better than to mention this group in supernews.general, but I did, and not ten minutes later, you arrived. |
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Supernews Danhiel seems to feel that deleting (by snipping) what other people write is not harmful, at all: Of course it's not. When you quote someone in a post, don't misrepresent what they said. That doesn't mean you have to quote the whole thing, any more than you have to quote all of "Hamlet" if you want to talk about the "to be or not to be" passage. |
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Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote: Many of their users post filth, profanity and such, and Supernews just turns their heads, even though it is a direct violation of their Terms of Service. No, it's not. |
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Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote: Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote: Many of their users post filth, profanity and such, and Supernews just turns their heads, even though it is a direct violation of their Terms of Service. No, it's not. Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated? You lie, son. |
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Uni |
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Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote: Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote: Many of their users post filth, profanity and such, and Supernews just turns their heads, even though it is a direct violation of their Terms of Service. No, it's not. Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated? You lie, son. |
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Uni |
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You followed me here, not the other way around. I regret that; I should have known better than to mention this group in supernews.general, but I did, and not ten minutes later, you arrived. Ahh......So it's your fault that we inherited the Turd. |
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jbc wrote: So, in all, there are three parties exerting their needs in different ways: you, Uni and Supernews. You want a newsprovider to be straight to others where you are not (as shown above with selective quoting and taking things out of context), Uni wants to post-edit and defamate people, the provider joins in with power play. There is no "power play". As should be obvious, we do not have the power to stop Uni from doing what he is doing. We do, however, have both the power and the right to decide that enough is enough when it comes to letting him do it from our system, because allowing him to continue reflects badly upon us. |
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Uni wrote: Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote: jbc wrote: [ ] Uni wants to post-edit and defamate people, the provider joins in with power play. [ ] allowing him to continue reflects badly upon us. Your goal is to stop me and only me. No one complained about any text editing. You fabricated a reason. Joske, I was in supernews.general (private group) when this all happened. I made one tiny edit, it was humorous, not malicious |
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and no "damage" was done. Supernews.general is not archived at Google. Paul Davis, at Supernews, was part of the set-up. He said Supernew's abuse head, Danhiel Baker, would contact me if I didn't stop. I didn't make any other changes. I challenged Paul and said, don't talk about it, do it. A day later, Danhiel sent me a warning via e-mail. |
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Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote jbc wrote: So, in all, there are three parties exerting their needs in different ways: you, Uni and Supernews. You want a newsprovider to be straight to others where you are not (as shown above with selective quoting and taking things out of context), Uni wants to post-edit and defamate people, the provider joins in with power play. There is no "power play". As should be obvious, we do not have the power to stop Uni from doing what he is doing. We do, however, have both the power and the right to decide that enough is enough when it comes to letting him do it from our system, because allowing him to continue reflects badly upon us. My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in newsgroups with. |
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unfavorable but probably correct opinions about your integrity. The majority of Usenetters probably couldn't care less where a problem-maker posts from, and simply killfile or ignore. Joske |
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Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote jbc wrote: So, in all, there are three parties exerting their needs in different ways: you, Uni and Supernews. You want a newsprovider to be straight to others where you are not (as shown above with selective quoting and taking things out of context), Uni wants to post-edit and defamate people, the provider joins in with power play. There is no "power play". As should be obvious, we do not have the power to stop Uni from doing what he is doing. We do, however, have both the power and the right to decide that enough is enough when it comes to letting him do it from our system, because allowing him to continue reflects badly upon us. My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in newsgroups with. That would make you vulnerable to unfavorable but probably correct opinions about your integrity. The majority of Usenetters probably couldn't care less where a problem-maker posts from, and simply killfile or ignore. Joske ZOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM |
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Uni wrote Uni wrote: Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote: jbc wrote: [ ] Uni wants to post-edit and defamate people, the provider joins in with power play. [ ] allowing him to continue reflects badly upon us. Your goal is to stop me and only me. No one complained about any text editing. You fabricated a reason. Joske, I was in supernews.general (private group) when this all happened. I made one tiny edit, it was humorous, not malicious I have personally experienced this 'humorous not malicious' from you recently when you were seen to defame me in a group I wasn't even frequenting. I know too well that you are not open to discuss these 'humorous' or should we say 'innocent' or 'jocular' posts that somehow magically cause defamation or breaches between people. So it is no use taking the role of the injured child with me. It doesn't wash. |
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You struck unlucky when you did it to people who have connections/contacts with Supernews staff that frequents newsgroups. |
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provider when its staff joins in tiffs and bans/blocks on personal grounds? I would say it doesn't. But since it does join in, to me it has become just another party in your 'humorous' interaction with posters. As another party, as far as I'm concerned they can do as they please just like I am writing this. Joske and no "damage" was done. Supernews.general is not archived at Google. Paul Davis, at Supernews, was part of the set-up. He said Supernew's abuse head, Danhiel Baker, would contact me if I didn't stop. I didn't make any other changes. I challenged Paul and said, don't talk about it, do it. A day later, Danhiel sent me a warning via e-mail. |
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He could indeed write 'I disagree' or 'I don't like you' or 'I want you to like me'. Or whatever he really thinks and feels, as you put it. Instead he twists their literal words and will never be open to a straight discussion. To which you replied: That is not my problem, nor responsibility. So I repeated: I was responding to your own words. It was you who wrote 'If people can't write as they really think and feel then Free Speech is not worth much, now is it.' And now you state: Yes, and I still think it is an accurate opinion. You want a newsprovider to be straight to others where you are not (as shown above with selective quoting and taking things out of context)... There is no need for me to respond to things and ideas that are not interesting to me. Thus I don't quote them and I don't respond to them. |
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Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated? |
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You lie, son. |
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From: Triumph The Insult Comic Dog ([Email Removed]) [...] "Screw supernews. Used them in the past I had my " posting privileges " suspended without notice because some whining bitch didn't approve of my usage of the word " asshole " in a post. |
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My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in newsgroups with. |
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rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski <[Email Removed]> wrote: Yep. All it would take is $3, and me posting in supernews.general using this e-mail addy. Now that I think about it, it wouldn't even take that. The SN admins post here. I give my permission to the SN admins to post here if I have been banned from posting from Supernews. Nah, feel free to come on over. |
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When you feel that overriding urge to respond to a troll, like I am doing right now.. stop, take a deep breath of dope, and realize that the addict you always wanted to be, you are achieving. Your goals of controlling your emotions with drugs is happening. Rise above the troll and don't respond. Become a zombie and don't respond. You also must do your part in chastizing/educating other users who don't feed their habit. Easynews will take no action unless we see some effort from the addicts to control themselves. A addict is just as responsible for their condition as the . As it has been said before, drugs kill. -- godzilla |
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stop the abuse as we define it. |
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he was crossing the line. |
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Post proof or keep your trap shut. |
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jbc wrote: Uni wrote Joske, I was in supernews.general (private group) when this all happened. I made one tiny edit, it was humorous, not malicious I have personally experienced this 'humorous not malicious' from you [ ] So it is no use taking the role of the injured child with me. It doesn't wash. You're inferior to I. I can put aside personal feelings. |
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jbc wrote: My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in newsgroups with. That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in reality whatsoever. Uni has been post-editing in various groups for quite a while, and he was crossing the line. If we wanted to single him out for personal reasons, we would have done so a *long* time ago -- he is one of the most worthless people I have ever encountered in my life. |
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I have observed too many threads to say my guess is unlikely, I'm afraid. Suffice it to say that my conclusion was that I would not subscribe to Supernews because I prefer my newsserver to be objective and aloof - definitely not involved in goings-on in newsgroups nor making remarks about *any* of their subscribers such as the one you write above. |
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Do you keep a special archive of all my posts? |
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I have observed too many threads to say my guess is unlikely, I'm afraid. |
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Suffice it to say that my conclusion was that I would not subscribe to Supernews because I prefer my newsserver to be objective and aloof - definitely not involved in goings-on in newsgroups |
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Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote: Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated? You think I'd tell you? In public? |
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You lie, son. Do not. |
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From: Triumph The Insult Comic Dog ([Email Removed]) [...] "Screw supernews. Used them in the past I had my " posting privileges " suspended without notice because some whining bitch didn't approve of my usage of the word " asshole " in a post. No truth in that. |
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Do you keep a special archive of all my posts? Why, yes we do. |
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You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid. |
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jbc wrote - I have observed too many threads to say my guess is unlikely, I'm afraid. Suffice it to say that my conclusion was that I would not subscribe to Supernews because I prefer my newsserver to be objective and aloof - definitely not involved in goings-on in newsgroups nor making remarks about *any* of their subscribers such as the one you write above. I realise there's a good chance you're having some problems with translation - but you are posting (or cross-posting) to alt.binaries.news-server-comparison which is the one ng in the whole of Usenet where we'd expect to see contributions from NSP admins. If you'd been around any length of time, you'd be aware that Supernews have for the most part only responded to the posts of the Turdwit. Most other NSP's would have told him to fuck off by now. At least one other NSP has told the twat not even think of applying for an account with them. |
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Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote: You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid. Only if it is. |
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crybaby turd wrote - Did Supernews ever follow you from supernews.general, to another newsgroup, to defend their disciplinary actions? They did with me. Supernews Danhiel seems to feel that deleting (by snipping) what other people write is not harmful, at all: "Deliberately changing what someone wrote and quoting it in a manner that it is either directly attributed to them or left open to leave the impression it was written by that person sure seems to be walking the line of defamation depending on what you said and whether it caused that person emotional distress or could harm their reputation." Let's be positive. All the time the turd's whinging here - it ain't molesting any children. |
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jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote: My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in newsgroups with. That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in reality whatsoever. Uni has been post-editing in various groups for quite a while, and he was crossing the line. If we wanted to single him out for personal reasons, we would have done so a *long* time ago -- he is one of the most worthless people I have ever encountered in my life. -- Jeremy | [Email Removed] |
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in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 11:15 AM: he was crossing the line. Notice that the "line" is made up as they go along. The "line" changes from day to day. Do you know where the "line" is today, Jeremy? Will you share with the users of Supernews where the "line" is today? hahahahaha. |
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:17:29 -0000, Jeremy Nixon - Supernews <[Email Removed]> wrote: godzilla <[Email Removed]> wrote: Easynews will take no action unless we see some effort from the troll feeders to control themselves. A troll feeder is just as responsible for Usenet abuse as the troll IMHO. That's why our normal response to such complaints is "use a killfile". Therefore, we take action if the troll is morphing to avoid killfiles. The current flare-up is about post-editing, though, which isn't nearly the same thing as trolling. although, in this instance it seems to be a method of trolling, no? |
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godzilla <[Email Removed]> wrote: The current flare-up is about post-editing, though, which isn't nearly the same thing as trolling. although, in this instance it seems to be a method of trolling, no? It's being used as such here, and we are joining right in because we are going to show them the error of their ways! I call it ABUSE and will not stand for it! I am big and they are small! I will show them! If they can use postediting then so can we! I will change the name on messages and then repost it so that people will think that someone else wrote that message! That is what I will do! So there! Otherwise I might as well pack up and go home! |
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So if I shit in the middle of your living room and shoot your dog and just call it trolling, then your ok with that? |
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"Old Nick" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:BCEF4C66.109442%[Email Removed]... in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 11:15 AM: he was crossing the line. Notice that the "line" is made up as they go along. The "line" changes from day to day. Do you know where the "line" is today, Jeremy? Will you share with the users of Supernews where the "line" is today? hahahahaha. Anywhere between torture and teaching. |
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"Bill" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message news:[Email Removed]... So if I shit in the middle of my living room and smear it all over my face and ask you to lick it off just before I shoot you, you're not going to want me to piss on you also are you? Bill hehehe, this is fun, isn't it |
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Looks like Supernews is up to it's old tricks again and needs to be spanked again. -------------------- start of quote ----------------------------- Path: ...supernews.com!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!news-out.visi.com !petbe.visi.com!news.octanews.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!news.astraweb.com!new s-router2.astraweb.com!not-for-mail User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:13:01 -0700 Subject: Re: go away From: Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin <[Email Removed] Newsgroups: alt.internet.search-engines Message-ID: <BCEF605D.109598%[Email Removed] References: <[Email Removed] <zFjyc.13790$ye1.7688@lakeread05 <40c9e1ae$0$552$[Email Removed] <40ca0716$0$314$[Email Removed] Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Lines: 47 Organization: Unlimited download news at news.astraweb.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 0fd14c0d.news.astraweb.com X-Trace: DXC=U8m6M1B1`=e=3UWcM[dT7dL?0kYOcDh@j0oAFZU^cWYaj8\[`GoG1dD`Gg;;dn[d?cA2lQM nFc>?DdWVX=[Pba2<o3jLbA[b in article 40ca0716$0$314$[Email Removed], Martin Hagstrm at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 12:24 PM: "PeterMcC" <[Email Removed]> skrev i en meddelelse news:40c9e1ae$0$552$[Email Removed]... Yes, Miss, <span fx="look:sullen">I did.</span I understand about Supernews; however, in the conversation above, "Millie" says, in reply to Martin "... Trolling is a sport. I see you like both." "Millie" is saying that Martin likes trolling (and puppetry). I suggested that the assertion might be erroneous. Well, the bit about trolling anyway... I've no knowledge of Martin's interest or otherwise in puppetry. Time to come clean, Martin, any tendencies towards puppetry? I doesn't really matter what a sock puppet says. The Supernews boies crave attention so it's best to ignore them. If you have lots of time on your hand (and a strong stomach) you can read this thread where they complain that they was blocked from doing their job. They whine endlessly (200 messages) that they didn't do any spamming - "Supernews" forged the messages. A few of their socks join the chorus. There's also a nice summary in alt.usenet.kooks about Supernews and how they fake messages. -- /Martin Hagstrm www.PageRank.dk Which was a load of fun. You little boies take this all way too seriously. hahahahaha. -------------------- end of quote ----------------------------- |
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Good goddess. Is the state of trolling in supernews.general *that* bad today that you'd post that? ;) Although, if Uni is typical of your current batch of trolls, then it may be that bad today. |
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In message <<40c9f96f$0$56676$[Email Removed] "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> did ramble: Good goddess. Is the state of supernews.general *that* bad today that you'd post that? Yeah, it's a rather sad state over there in terms of the quality of the regulars we get these days, the trolls are the only bright spot in the whole newsgroup. |
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jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote: I have observed too many threads to say my guess is unlikely, I'm afraid. Most of them started by the same two people, and almost everyone on "their" side is one of those two people using various different names. Suffice it to say that my conclusion was that I would not subscribe to Supernews because I prefer my newsserver to be objective and aloof - definitely not involved in goings-on in newsgroups People from most of the major Usenet providers participate here. |
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Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote: You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid. Only if it is. |
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Uni, You are apparently under the false impression I or anyone else here gives a damn about you. I said what needed saying, and stand by it; if I was insecure about it and felt it needed some sort of constant defense I'd surely be out there now posting madly away. I'm not, and it doesn't Trying to goad me into posting some sort of response is just a desperate plea for attention on your part. The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll stop wasting your time. |
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jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote: My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in newsgroups with. That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in reality whatsoever. Uni has been post-editing in various groups for quite a while, and he was crossing the line. If we wanted to single him out for personal reasons, we would have done so a *long* time ago -- he is one of the most worthless people I have ever encountered in my life. |
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Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote jbc wrote: Uni wrote Joske, I was in supernews.general (private group) when this all happened. I made one tiny edit, it was humorous, not malicious I have personally experienced this 'humorous not malicious' from you [ ] So it is no use taking the role of the injured child with me. It doesn't wash. You're inferior to I. I can put aside personal feelings. Not feelings but fact: you have proven yourself, to me as well, a liar and a twister of words. All with the intent to harm, defame and create discord, and by all appearances out of jealousy. This is why I cannot adhere any weight to your many stories of how people/companies/providers have singled you out or disadvantaged you - based on my experience I cannot know whether they are true or not. You should be able to understand this, your personal feelings about the consequences of your 'humorous' treatment aside. |
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jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote: My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in newsgroups with. That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in reality whatsoever. Uni has been post-editing in various groups for quite a while, and he was crossing the line. If we wanted to single him out for personal reasons, we would have done so a *long* time ago -- |
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people I have ever encountered in my life. |
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Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote: Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote: You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid. Only if it is. Do you believe this is enough evidence?..... Uni, You are apparently under the false impression I or anyone else here gives a damn about you. I said what needed saying, and stand by it; if I was insecure about it and felt it needed some sort of constant defense I'd surely be out there now posting madly away. I'm not, and it doesn't Trying to goad me into posting some sort of response is just a desperate plea for attention on your part. The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll stop wasting your time. :-) |
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in article [Email Removed], godzilla at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 11:12 AM: When you feel that overriding urge to respond to a troll, like I am doing right now.. stop, take a deep breath of dope, and realize that the addict you always wanted to be, you are achieving. Your goals of controlling your emotions with drugs is happening. Rise above the troll and don't respond. Become a zombie and don't respond. You also must do your part in chastizing/educating other users who don't feed their habit. Easynews will take no action unless we see some effort from the addicts to control themselves. A addict is just as responsible for their condition as the . As it has been said before, drugs kill. -- godzilla Written like a true addict. hahahaha. |
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Message-ID: <BCEF5ED9.109575%[Email Removed] Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin wrote: After being spanked in the newsgroups for a few days... Supernews has retreated to silence to lick it's ass... wounds... the poor thing. After being shown for the whim-based censoring company that it is, they slink off to the dark places on Usenet. How funny. Post Edited by Jeremy Nixon at Supernews..... Message-ID: <[Email Removed] Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote: Artist Mike <[Email Removed]> wrote: After being spanked in the newsgroups for a few days... Supernews has retreated to silence to lick it's ass... wounds... the poor thing. After being shown for the whim-based censoring company that it is, they slink off to the dark places on Usenet. |