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Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
Did Supernews ever follow you from supernews.general, to another
newsgroup, to defend their disciplinary actions? They did with me.

You followed me here, not the other way around. I regret that; I should
have known better than to mention this group in supernews.general, but I
did, and not ten minutes later, you arrived.

QUOTE
Supernews Danhiel seems to feel that deleting (by snipping) what other
people write is not harmful, at all:

Of course it's not. When you quote someone in a post, don't misrepresent
what they said. That doesn't mean you have to quote the whole thing, any
more than you have to quote all of "Hamlet" if you want to talk about the
"to be or not to be" passage.

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
Many of their users post filth, profanity and such, and Supernews just
turns their heads, even though it is a direct violation of their Terms of
Service.

No, it's not.

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Uni
Roy Peterson wrote:
QUOTE
in article [Email Removed], Far Canal at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/10/2004 10:36 PM:


it's dribbling piss down it's
legs.


Is that a problem for you?

He's interested in golden showers.

:-)

Uni

QUOTE



Uni
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE
Uni  <[Email Removed]> wrote:


Did Supernews ever follow you from supernews.general, to another
newsgroup, to defend their disciplinary actions? They did with me.


You followed me here, not the other way around.  I regret that; I should
have known better than to mention this group in supernews.general, but I
did, and not ten minutes later, you arrived.

I never followed you here. You're always here, with the rest of the
staff. Maybe that's why you lost that block of accounts, because you
were not paying attention to important things.

:-)

QUOTE


Supernews Danhiel seems to feel that deleting (by snipping) what other
people write is not harmful, at all:


Of course it's not.  When you quote someone in a post, don't misrepresent
what they said.  That doesn't mean you have to quote the whole thing, any
more than you have to quote all of "Hamlet" if you want to talk about the
"to be or not to be" passage.

Face it, Jeremy, you're ONLY defending Supernews, no one else.

Uni


>

Uni
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE
Uni  <[Email Removed]> wrote:


Many of their users post filth, profanity and such, and Supernews just
turns their heads, even though it is a direct violation of their Terms of
Service.


No, it's not.

Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated?

You lie, son.

Uni


>

Uni
Uni wrote:
QUOTE
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:

Uni  <[Email Removed]> wrote:


Many of their users post filth, profanity and such, and Supernews just
turns their heads, even though it is a direct violation of their
Terms of
Service.



No, it's not.


Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated?

You lie, son.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Supernew...news.com&rnum=1

From: Triumph The Insult Comic Dog ([Email Removed])
Subject: Re: 'bye!
View: Complete Thread (28 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro
Date: 2003-01-16 07:47:10 PST

"Screw supernews.
Used them in the past I had my " posting privileges "
suspended without notice because some whining bitch
didn't approve of my usage of the word " asshole "
in a post.

<snip>

-woof."



QUOTE

Uni






Uni
Uni wrote:
QUOTE
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:

Uni  <[Email Removed]> wrote:


Many of their users post filth, profanity and such, and Supernews just
turns their heads, even though it is a direct violation of their
Terms of
Service.



No, it's not.


Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated?

You lie, son.


From: Triumph The Insult Comic Dog ([Email Removed])
Subject: Re: 'bye!
View: Complete Thread (28 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.paint-shop-pro
Date: 2003-01-16 07:47:10 PST

"Screw supernews.
Used them in the past I had my " posting privileges "
suspended without notice because some whining bitch
didn't approve of my usage of the word " asshole "
in a post."


QUOTE

Uni






On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:47:33 -0000, Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
<[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
You followed me here, not the other way around.  I regret that; I should
have known better than to mention this group in supernews.general, but I
did, and not ten minutes later, you arrived.

Ahh......So it's your fault that we inherited the Turd.

Bailiff....Whack his pee pee. };-)

J.P.

jbc
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote
QUOTE
jbc wrote:

So, in all, there are three parties exerting their needs
in different ways: you, Uni and Supernews. You want a
newsprovider to be straight to others where you are not
(as shown above with selective quoting and taking things
out of context), Uni wants to post-edit and defamate
people, the provider joins in with power play.

There is no "power play".  As should be obvious, we do
not have the power to stop Uni from doing what he is
doing.  We do, however, have both the power and the right
to decide that enough is enough when it comes to letting
him do it from our system, because allowing him to
continue reflects badly upon us.

My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and
other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in
newsgroups with. That would make you vulnerable to
unfavorable but probably correct opinions about your
integrity. The majority of Usenetters probably couldn't care
less where a problem-maker posts from, and simply killfile
or ignore.

Joske

jbc
Uni wrote
QUOTE
Uni wrote:
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
jbc  wrote:

[ ] Uni wants to post-edit
and defamate people, the provider joins in with
power play.

[ ] allowing him to continue reflects badly upon us.

Your goal is to stop me and only me. No one complained
about any text editing. You fabricated a reason.

Joske, I was in supernews.general (private group) when
this all happened. I made one tiny edit, it was humorous,
not malicious

I have personally experienced this 'humorous not malicious'
from you recently when you were seen to defame me in a group
I wasn't even frequenting. I know too well that you are not
open to discuss these 'humorous' or should we say 'innocent'
or 'jocular' posts that somehow magically cause defamation
or breaches between people.

So it is no use taking the role of the injured child with
me. It doesn't wash.

You struck unlucky when you did it to people who have
connections/contacts with Supernews staff that frequents
newsgroups. Is Supernews coming across as a trustworthy
provider when its staff joins in tiffs and bans/blocks on
personal grounds? I would say it doesn't. But since it does
join in, to me it has become just another party in your
'humorous' interaction with posters. As another party, as
far as I'm concerned they can do as they please just like I
am writing this.

Joske

QUOTE
and no "damage" was done. Supernews.general
is not archived at Google. Paul Davis, at Supernews, was
part of the set-up. He said Supernew's abuse head,
Danhiel Baker, would contact me if I didn't stop. I
didn't make any other changes. I challenged Paul and
said, don't talk about it, do it. A day later, Danhiel
sent me a warning via e-mail.


Uni
jbc wrote:
QUOTE
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews  wrote

jbc wrote:


So, in all, there are three parties exerting their needs
in different ways: you, Uni and Supernews. You want a
newsprovider to be straight to others where you are not
(as shown above with selective quoting and taking things
out of context), Uni wants to post-edit and defamate
people, the provider joins in with power play.


There is no "power play".  As should be obvious, we do
not have the power to stop Uni from doing what he is
doing.  We do, however, have both the power and the right
to decide that enough is enough when it comes to letting
him do it from our system, because allowing him to
continue reflects badly upon us.


My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and
other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in
newsgroups with.

Very true. Even Far Canal admitted he had an inside contact at Supernews!

Uni


That would make you vulnerable to
QUOTE
unfavorable but probably correct opinions about your
integrity. The majority of Usenetters probably couldn't care
less where a problem-maker posts from, and simply killfile
or ignore.

Joske




Aratzio
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:21:34 +0200, "jbc" <[Email Removed]> got
double secret probation because:

QUOTE
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews  wrote
jbc wrote:

So, in all, there are three parties exerting their needs
in different ways: you, Uni and Supernews. You want a
newsprovider to be straight to others where you are not
(as shown above with selective quoting and taking things
out of context), Uni wants to post-edit and defamate
people, the provider joins in with power play.

There is no "power play".  As should be obvious, we do
not have the power to stop Uni from doing what he is
doing.  We do, however, have both the power and the right
to decide that enough is enough when it comes to letting
him do it from our system, because allowing him to
continue reflects badly upon us.

My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and
other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in
newsgroups with. That would make you vulnerable to
unfavorable but probably correct opinions about your
integrity. The majority of Usenetters probably couldn't care
less where a problem-maker posts from, and simply killfile
or ignore.

Joske


ZOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM

As the point of this continues to fly right over your head and you
keep your blinders on to insure you only see your point. Go back read
the whole thread. Learn that even if you KF the 'Tard it would post
edit your words. Supernews who has the right to define anything it
wishes on Supernews system has defined post edits as Abuse. It ends
right there. No free speech strawman, no killfilter strawman, no power
plays just simple stop the abuse as we define it.

'Ratz



--

A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz
Accept No Substitute

Uni
jbc wrote:
QUOTE
Uni  wrote

Uni wrote:

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:

jbc  wrote:


[ ] Uni wants to post-edit
and defamate people, the provider joins in with
power play.


[ ] allowing him to continue reflects badly upon us.


Your goal is to stop me and only me. No one complained
about any text editing. You fabricated a reason.


Joske, I was in supernews.general (private group) when
this all happened. I made one tiny edit, it was humorous,
not malicious


I have personally experienced this 'humorous not malicious'
from you recently when you were seen to defame me in a group
I wasn't even frequenting. I know too well that you are not
open to discuss these 'humorous' or should we say 'innocent'
or 'jocular' posts that somehow magically cause defamation
or breaches between people.

So it is no use taking the role of the injured child with
me. It doesn't wash.

You're inferior to I. I can put aside personal feelings. Men are
universally superior to women, in that they aren't emotionally insecure.
As proof, this is why we only elect males as Presidents of the USA.
However, during childhood, boys enjoy playing war battles. You know,
with guns, outfits, bombs, etc., and, now, even with interactive video
games.
Men carry their childhood fun into other places, besides their backyard,
like Iraq, when they grow older.
What I'm basically saying is, we both have our faults.

:-)


QUOTE

You struck unlucky when you did it to people who have
connections/contacts with Supernews staff that frequents
newsgroups.

That is true. It's just like this DevilPGD person who is a big fan of
Supernews. Not once did he EVER mention post editing bothered him.
However, when he read that Supernews Paul would have Supernews Danhiel
(Abuse dept. head) take action, he fabricated Supernews "abuse" issues
emails.

Uni


Is Supernews coming across as a trustworthy
QUOTE
provider when its staff joins in tiffs and bans/blocks on
personal grounds? I would say it doesn't. But since it does
join in, to me it has become just another party in your
'humorous' interaction with posters. As another party, as
far as I'm concerned they can do as they please just like I
am writing this.

Joske


and no "damage" was done. Supernews.general
is not archived at Google. Paul Davis, at Supernews, was
part of the set-up. He said Supernew's abuse head,
Danhiel Baker, would contact me if I didn't stop. I
didn't make any other changes. I challenged Paul and
said, don't talk about it, do it. A day later, Danhiel
sent me a warning via e-mail.





jbc
Martin_S wrote
QUOTE
jbc wrote

Context and logic:
You wrote:
If people can't write as they really think and feel then
Free Speech is not worth much, now is it.
I responded to that:
QUOTE
He
could indeed write 'I disagree' or 'I don't like you' or
'I want you to like me'. Or whatever he really thinks and
feels, as you put it. Instead he twists their literal
words and will never be open to a straight discussion.
To which you replied:
That is not my problem, nor responsibility.
So I repeated:
I was responding to your own words. It was you who wrote
'If people can't write as they really think and feel
then Free Speech is not worth much, now is it.'
And now you state:
Yes, and I still think it is an accurate opinion.

You want a newsprovider to be straight to others where
you are not (as shown above with selective quoting
and taking things out of context)...

There is no need for me to respond to things and ideas
that are not interesting to me.  Thus I don't quote them
and I don't respond to them.

Well, you sure make a lot of clamour for someone to whom
his own ideas on free speech are in his view obviously not
interesting enough for others to comment on ;-)

Joske

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated?

You think I'd tell you? In public?

QUOTE
You lie, son.

Do not.

QUOTE
From: Triumph The Insult Comic Dog ([Email Removed])
[...]
"Screw supernews.
Used them in the past I had my " posting privileges "
suspended without notice because some whining bitch
didn't approve of my usage of  the word " asshole "
in a post.

No truth in that.

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and
other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in
newsgroups with.

That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in reality whatsoever.
Uni has been post-editing in various groups for quite a while, and he was
crossing the line. If we wanted to single him out for personal reasons,
we would have done so a *long* time ago -- he is one of the most worthless
people I have ever encountered in my life.

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski
"Jeremy Nixon - Supernews" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]
QUOTE
rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski <[Email Removed]> wrote:

Yep. All it would take is $3, and me posting in supernews.general
using this e-mail addy. Now that I think about it, it wouldn't even
take that. The SN admins post here. I give my permission to the SN
admins to post here if I have been banned from posting from
Supernews.

Nah, feel free to come on over.

Good goddess. Is the state of trolling in supernews.general *that* bad
today that you'd post that? ;) Although, if Uni is typical of your current
batch of trolls, then it may be that bad today.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/
For information about the psychedelic DXM, including dangers.
"If I swallow anything evil, put your finger down my throat."
-The Who, "Behind Blue Eyes"

Old Nick
in article [Email Removed], godzilla at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 11:12 AM:


QUOTE

When you feel that overriding urge to respond to a troll, like I am doing
right now.. stop, take a deep breath of dope, and realize that the addict
you always wanted to be, you are achieving.  Your goals of controlling your
emotions with drugs is happening.  Rise above the troll and don't respond.
Become a zombie and don't respond.


You also must do your part in chastizing/educating other users who
don't feed their habit.

Easynews will take no action unless we see some effort from the addicts
to control themselves.  A addict is just as responsible
for their condition as the .

As it has been said before, drugs kill.

-- godzilla


Written like a true addict.

hahahaha.

Old Nick
in article [Email Removed], Aratzio at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 9:47 AM:

QUOTE
stop the abuse as we define it.



And everyone gets to see Supernews redefine "abuse" as they go along, day by
day... those same people get to decide if they want to pay such a service
to access Usenet. Some people don't want to be at the whim of little boys
that play at defining "abuse" day by day.

That is how the system works. Public knowledge about businesses that define
their standards day by day.

Hope that helps you understand what is going on, Rat-boi.

Old Nick
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 11:15 AM:

QUOTE
he was
crossing the line.

Notice that the "line" is made up as they go along. The "line" changes from
day to day.

Do you know where the "line" is today, Jeremy? Will you share with the
users of Supernews where the "line" is today?

hahahahaha.

Old Nick
in article [Email Removed], Brandon - Supernews
Support at [Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 6:21 AM:


QUOTE

Post proof or keep your trap shut.



Poor little Brandumb... got his panties in a bunch.

hahahahaha.

jbc
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote
QUOTE
jbc wrote:
Uni  wrote

Joske, I was in supernews.general (private group) when
this all happened. I made one tiny edit, it was
humorous, not malicious

I have personally experienced this 'humorous not
malicious' from you [ ]

So it is no use taking the role of the injured child with
me. It doesn't wash.

You're inferior to I. I can put aside personal feelings.

Not feelings but fact: you have proven yourself, to me as
well, a liar and a twister of words. All with the intent to
harm, defame and create discord, and by all appearances out
of jealousy. This is why I cannot adhere any weight to your
many stories of how people/companies/providers have singled
you out or disadvantaged you - based on my experience I
cannot know whether they are true or not. You should be able
to understand this, your personal feelings about the
consequences of your 'humorous' treatment aside.

Joske

jbc
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote
QUOTE
jbc  wrote:

My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and
other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in
newsgroups with.

That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in
reality whatsoever. Uni has been post-editing in various
groups for quite a while, and he was crossing the line.
If we wanted to single him out for personal reasons, we
would have done so a *long* time ago -- he is one of the
most worthless people I have ever encountered in my life.

I have observed too many threads to say my guess is
unlikely, I'm afraid. Suffice it to say that my conclusion
was that I would not subscribe to Supernews because I prefer
my newsserver to be objective and aloof - definitely not
involved in goings-on in newsgroups nor making remarks about
*any* of their subscribers such as the one you write above.

Joske

Far Canal
jbc wrote -


QUOTE
I have observed too many threads to say my guess is
unlikely, I'm afraid. Suffice it to say that my conclusion
was that I would not subscribe to Supernews because I prefer
my newsserver to be objective and aloof - definitely not
involved in goings-on in newsgroups nor making remarks about
*any* of their subscribers such as the one you write above.


I realise there's a good chance you're having some problems with
translation - but you are posting (or cross-posting) to
alt.binaries.news-server-comparison
which is the one ng in the whole of Usenet where we'd expect to see
contributions from NSP admins.
If you'd been around any length of time, you'd be aware that Supernews
have for the most part only responded to the posts of the Turdwit.
Most other NSP's would have told him to fuck off by now. At least one
other NSP has told the twat not even think of applying for an account
with them.

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
in article [Email Removed], Far Canal at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 12:15 PM:


QUOTE
Do you keep a special archive of all my posts?



Why, yes we do.

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
I have observed too many threads to say my guess is
unlikely, I'm afraid.

Most of them started by the same two people, and almost everyone on "their"
side is one of those two people using various different names.

QUOTE
Suffice it to say that my conclusion was that I would not subscribe
to Supernews because I prefer my newsserver to be objective and aloof -
definitely not involved in goings-on in newsgroups

People from most of the major Usenet providers participate here.

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Uni
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE
Uni  <[Email Removed]> wrote:


Then why was Triumph's posting privileges terminated?


You think I'd tell you?  In public?

Why not?

I already know how Triumph talks in usenet and what his profession is.


QUOTE


You lie, son.


Do not.

Do too.


QUOTE


From: Triumph The Insult Comic Dog ([Email Removed])

[...]

"Screw supernews.
Used them in the past I had my " posting privileges "
suspended without notice because some whining bitch
didn't approve of my usage of  the word " asshole "
in a post.


No truth in that.

You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid.

Uni


>

Far Canal
Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin wrote -


QUOTE
Do you keep a special archive of all my posts?



Why, yes we do.



And I thought only the turd was special !

Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote:

QUOTE
You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid.

Only if it is.

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

Uni
Far Canal wrote:
QUOTE
jbc wrote -



I have observed too many threads to say my guess is
unlikely, I'm afraid. Suffice it to say that my conclusion
was that I would not subscribe to Supernews because I prefer
my newsserver to be objective and aloof - definitely not
involved in goings-on in newsgroups nor making remarks about
*any* of their subscribers such as the one you write above.



I realise there's a good chance you're having some problems with
translation - but you are posting (or cross-posting) to
alt.binaries.news-server-comparison
which is the one ng in the whole of Usenet where we'd expect to see
contributions from NSP admins.
If you'd been around any length of time, you'd be aware that Supernews
have for the most part only responded to the posts of the Turdwit.
Most other NSP's would have told him to fuck off by now.  At least one
other NSP has told the twat not even think of applying for an account
with them.

That was Octanews, you know, Big Mike's, who runs ReadFreeNews, for his
fan-club children.

:-)

Apparently, Big Mike doesn't want me to see what he offers at Octanews,
for some strange reason.

:-)

Uni


>

Uni
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE
Uni  <[Email Removed]> wrote:


You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid.


Only if it is.

Like I've said many times before, it's impossible to prove anything in
usenet.

However, since Triumph did post a valid Supernews statement, it is our
only evidence.

Uni


>

Colonel Polyps
Bushit mentality.

"Far Canal" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE


crybaby turd wrote -



Did Supernews ever follow you from supernews.general, to another
newsgroup, to defend their disciplinary actions? They did with me.

Supernews Danhiel seems to feel that deleting (by snipping) what
other
people write is not harmful, at all:

"Deliberately changing what someone wrote and quoting it in a manner
that
it is either directly attributed to them or left open to leave the
impression it was written by that person sure seems to be walking
the
line of defamation depending on what you said and whether it caused
that
person emotional distress or could harm their reputation."



Let's be positive.  All the time the turd's whinging here - it ain't
molesting any children.

And you are not sticking sexual torture devices in their face are you?

Everybody with a hair brain knows the crucifix was used for castration.

Oh go deny it.

We saw you guys torturing non-christians raping them and smiling about
it.

voodoo disease 666

Colonel Polyps
"Jeremy Nixon - Supernews" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...
QUOTE
jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote:

My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and
other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in
newsgroups with.

That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in reality
whatsoever.
Uni has been post-editing in various groups for quite a while, and he
was
crossing the line.  If we wanted to single him out for personal
reasons,
we would have done so a *long* time ago -- he is one of the most
worthless
people I have ever encountered in my life.

--
Jeremy | [Email Removed]

And that is from someone named NIXON.

Also known as tricky dick.

Death to the christian jew cop government.

Colonel Polyps
"Old Nick" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:BCEF4C66.109442%[Email Removed]...
QUOTE
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 11:15 AM:

he was
crossing the line.

Notice that the "line" is made up as they go along.  The "line"
changes from
day to day.

Do you know where the "line" is today, Jeremy?  Will you share with
the
users of Supernews where the "line" is today?

hahahahaha.

Anywhere between torture and teaching.

voodoo disease 666

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
in article [Email Removed], godzilla at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 2:30 PM:

QUOTE
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:17:29 -0000, Jeremy Nixon - Supernews
<[Email Removed]> wrote:

godzilla  <[Email Removed]> wrote:

Easynews will take no action unless we see some effort from the troll
feeders to control themselves.  A troll feeder is just as responsible
for Usenet abuse as the troll IMHO.

That's why our normal response to such complaints is "use a killfile".

Therefore, we take action if the troll is morphing to avoid killfiles.
The current flare-up is about post-editing, though, which isn't nearly
the same thing as trolling.

although, in this instance it seems to be a method of trolling, no?

Yes. Supernews has joined the trolls and is right in there with them.

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 3:24 PM:

QUOTE
godzilla  <[Email Removed]> wrote:

The current flare-up is about post-editing, though, which isn't nearly
the same thing as trolling.

although, in this instance it seems to be a method of trolling, no?

It's being used as such here, and we are joining right in because we are going
to show them the error of their ways!  I call it ABUSE and will not stand for
it!  I am big and they are small!  I will show them!

If they can use postediting then so can we!  I will change the name on
messages and then repost it so that people will think that someone else wrote
that message!  That is what I will do!  So there!  Otherwise I might as well
pack up and go home!


Yeah! You show them how it is done. I am right behind you on that one.

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
in article [Email Removed], Bill at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 3:51 PM:


QUOTE
So if I shit in the middle of your living room and shoot your dog and just
call it trolling, then your ok with that?


No one's living room is being shit in. No one's dog is being shot. This is
a newsgroup, not your livingroom. Calm down and think clearly.

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
in article [Email Removed], Colonel Polyps at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 2:42 PM:

QUOTE

"Old Nick" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:BCEF4C66.109442%[Email Removed]...
in article [Email Removed], Jeremy Nixon - Supernews at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 11:15 AM:

he was
crossing the line.

Notice that the "line" is made up as they go along.  The "line"
changes from
day to day.

Do you know where the "line" is today, Jeremy?  Will you share with
the
users of Supernews where the "line" is today?

hahahahaha.

Anywhere between torture and teaching.





Exactly. If they are not trying to "teach" people how to write in
newsgroups they are torturing them with crap rules about what they can't
post in newsgroups.

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
in article z4ryc.69970$[Email Removed], Devin at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 4:17 PM:

QUOTE

"Bill" <[Email Removed]> wrote in message
news:[Email Removed]...


So if I shit in the middle of my living room and smear it all over my face
and ask you to lick it off just before I shoot you, you're not going to want
me to piss on you also are you?

Bill

hehehe, this is fun, isn't it



Great fun!

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
in article [Email Removed], [Email Removed] at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 4:35 PM:

QUOTE

Looks like Supernews is up to it's old tricks again and needs to be
spanked again.

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Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:13:01 -0700
Subject: Re: go away
From: Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin <[Email Removed]
Newsgroups: alt.internet.search-engines
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in article 40ca0716$0$314$[Email Removed], Martin Hagstrm at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 12:24 PM:

"PeterMcC" <[Email Removed]> skrev i en meddelelse
news:40c9e1ae$0$552$[Email Removed]...

Yes, Miss, <span fx="look:sullen">I did.</span

I understand about Supernews; however, in the conversation above, "Millie"
says, in reply to Martin "... Trolling is a sport. I see you like both."
"Millie" is saying that Martin likes trolling (and puppetry). I suggested
that the assertion might be erroneous. Well, the bit about trolling
anyway... I've no knowledge of Martin's interest or otherwise in puppetry.
Time to come clean, Martin, any tendencies towards puppetry?


I doesn't really matter what a sock puppet says. The Supernews boies crave
attention so it's best to ignore them.

If you have lots of time on your hand (and a strong stomach) you can read
this thread where they complain that they was blocked from doing their job.
They whine endlessly (200 messages) that they didn't do any spamming -
"Supernews" forged the messages. A few of their socks join the chorus.


There's also a nice summary in alt.usenet.kooks about Supernews and how they
fake messages.

-- /Martin Hagstrm www.PageRank.dk






Which was a load of fun.

You little boies take this all way too seriously.

hahahahaha.


-------------------- end of quote -----------------------------


DevilsPGD
In message <<40c9f96f$0$56676$[Email Removed]>>
"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> did ramble:

QUOTE
Good goddess. Is the state of trolling in supernews.general *that* bad
today that you'd post that? ;) Although, if Uni is typical of your current
batch of trolls, then it may be that bad today.

Yeah, it's a rather sad state over there in terms of the quality of the
trolls we get these days.


--
The nice thing about standards, there is enough for everyone to have their own.

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
in article Z6uyc.17387290$[Email Removed], DevilsPGD at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 7:45 PM:

QUOTE
In message <<40c9f96f$0$56676$[Email Removed]
"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <[Email Removed]> did ramble:

Good goddess. Is the state of  supernews.general *that* bad
today that you'd post that?

Yeah, it's a rather sad state over there in terms of the quality of the
regulars we get these days, the trolls are the only bright spot in the
whole newsgroup.



Well of course.

Regulars are ... well, just regular.

Uni
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE
jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote:


I have observed too many threads to say my guess is
unlikely, I'm afraid.


Most of them started by the same two people, and almost everyone on "their"
side is one of those two people using various different names.


Suffice it to say that my conclusion was that I would not subscribe
to Supernews because I prefer my newsserver to be objective and aloof -
definitely not involved in goings-on in newsgroups


People from most of the major Usenet providers participate here.

Hope some major ISPs visit and/or participate here, too.

:-)

Uni



>

Uni
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE
Uni  <[Email Removed]> wrote:


You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid.


Only if it is.


Do you believe this is enough evidence?.....

QUOTE
Uni,
You are apparently under the false impression I or anyone else here
gives a damn about you.  I said what needed saying, and stand by it;
if I was insecure about it and felt it needed some sort of constant
defense I'd surely be out there now posting madly away.  I'm not, and
it doesn't
Trying to goad me into posting some sort of response is just a
desperate plea for attention on your part.  The sooner you realize
that the sooner you'll stop wasting your time.

:-)

Uni

Uni
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE
jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote:


My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and
other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in
newsgroups with.


That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in reality whatsoever.
Uni has been post-editing in various groups for quite a while, and he was
crossing the line.  If we wanted to single him out for personal reasons,
we would have done so a *long* time ago -- he is one of the most worthless
people I have ever encountered in my life.

Yeah, I know. So, what do you think of these keywords?....

Supernews, RemarQ, Usenet Services Provider, NSP, Critical Path,
Popular, Outsourcing, Reselling, Corporate, Individual, Rating,
Inexpensive, Attractor Investment Management, Benchmark Capital, Bowman
Capital Management, Capital Research Management, BayStar Capital, LP,
Pivotal Capital MAE-WEST, GX Networks, Easynews, Giganews, Usenetserver,
AOL, Compare, Retention, Complete, MP3, Multi-media, Best, Dislike, Bad,

:-)

Uni

Uni
jbc wrote:
QUOTE
Uni <[Email Removed]> wrote

jbc wrote:

Uni  wrote


Joske, I was in supernews.general (private group) when
this all happened. I made one tiny edit, it was
humorous, not malicious


I have personally experienced this 'humorous not
malicious' from you [ ]


So it is no use taking the role of the injured child with
me. It doesn't wash.


You're inferior to I. I can put aside personal feelings.


Not feelings but fact: you have proven yourself, to me as
well, a liar and a twister of words. All with the intent to
harm, defame and create discord, and by all appearances out
of jealousy. This is why I cannot adhere any weight to your
many stories of how people/companies/providers have singled
you out or disadvantaged you - based on my experience I
cannot know whether they are true or not. You should be able
to understand this, your personal feelings about the
consequences of your 'humorous' treatment aside.

Missy, you may have no other choice but to use this usenet provider.
They are moving into your area, you know.

See, the difference between us is, I try to help innocent victims avoid
bad businesses. You, on the other hand, talk a nice story, but then
solicit, suggest, recommend and become a cheerleader for these sad
businesses. I'm certain you know what I mean.

Uni


QUOTE

Joske



Uni
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:
QUOTE
jbc <[Email Removed]> wrote:


My guess is you have a few vocal customers whom you and
other Supernews staff engage in personal contact in
newsgroups with.


That's an interesting guess, but it has no basis in reality whatsoever.
Uni has been post-editing in various groups for quite a while, and he was
crossing the line.  If we wanted to single him out for personal reasons,
we would have done so a *long* time ago --

Hmmm? So you allow your users to get away with misbehaving, for a *long*
time, but, since there isn't a thing about their type of misbehavior
included in your Terms Of Service, you later dream up of something, then
punish them?



he is one of the most worthless
QUOTE
people I have ever encountered in my life.

Yeah. That's why Ed from Supernews, in 2003, said you were going to
remove/update the TOS part about using automated software with your
service, but, here, a year later, it still exists.

:-)

To The Bad Business Sin Bin With You. Go! --->

:-)

Uni

>

Uni
Uni wrote:
QUOTE
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:

Uni  <[Email Removed]> wrote:


You'll claim everything I post, as "proof", is invalid.



Only if it is.


Do you believe this is enough evidence?.....

Uni,
You are apparently under the false impression I or anyone else here
gives a damn about you.  I said what needed saying, and stand by it;
if I was insecure about it and felt it needed some sort of constant
defense I'd surely be out there now posting madly away.  I'm not, and
it doesn't
Trying to goad me into posting some sort of response is just a
desperate plea for attention on your part.  The sooner you realize
that the sooner you'll stop wasting your time.

:-)

Oh, the above was in response to an abuse issue I e-mailed. Boy, seems
someone became flustered over the abuse issue. I was expecting, you
know, something like a simple "thank you".

:-)

Uni

QUOTE

Uni


okiwan
On 2004-06-11 14:29:23 -0400, Old Nick <[Email Removed]> said:

QUOTE
in article [Email Removed], godzilla at
[Email Removed] wrote on 06/11/2004 11:12 AM:



When you feel that overriding urge to respond to a troll, like I am doing
right now.. stop, take a deep breath of dope, and realize that the addict
you always wanted to be, you are achieving.  Your goals of controlling your
emotions with drugs is happening.  Rise above the troll and don't respond.
Become a zombie and don't respond.


You also must do your part in chastizing/educating other users who
don't feed their habit.

Easynews will take no action unless we see some effort from the addicts
to control themselves.  A addict is just as responsible
for their condition as the .

As it has been said before, drugs kill.

-- godzilla


Written like a true addict.

hahahaha.

good for you

-- trollzilla

Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin
Supernews, the News Provider, busted for doing exactly what they threaten
users for doing.

Yesterday, Jeremy Nixon of Supernews was seen editing messages to make it
seem as if someone else wrote them. This is a continuing example of the
type of activities that Supernews engages in.

Just a few days earlier they threatened to delete another users account for
"post editing" and then the very next day a Supernews employee is busted for
doing the very same thing.

Would you like to be at the whim of such a business? Would you like to be
under the control of such an employee?

You make up your own mind.





QUOTE
Message-ID: <BCEF5ED9.109575%[Email Removed]
Danhiel - SoupOrNews Admin wrote:

After being spanked in the newsgroups for a few days... Supernews has
retreated to silence to lick it's ass... wounds... the poor thing.  After
being shown for the whim-based censoring company that it is, they slink off
to the dark places on Usenet.

How funny.


Post Edited by Jeremy Nixon at Supernews.....


Message-ID: <[Email Removed]
Jeremy Nixon - Supernews wrote:

Artist Mike <[Email Removed]> wrote:

After being spanked in the newsgroups for a few days... Supernews has
retreated to silence to lick it's ass... wounds... the poor thing.  After
being shown for the whim-based censoring company that it is, they slink off
to the dark places on Usenet.


> What are you even talking about?


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